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2010-01-29
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Originally Posted by mikec
I don't get it - what difference does it make if you bought your phone with an interest free loan (aka contract) or purchased it outright/SIM free? You're still stuck with a super phone that most likely will not receive updates after at most 12 months, while the competition are still supporting devices from 3 years ago.
Heres the thing.
I'm paying £30 a month to Vfone for the pleasure of using my N900 NOW. In 18 Months I expect to b paying £25 a month. And they will throw in an N9XXX or what ever it is.
THATS THE DIFF between the N770,N800,N810.
So while it might have pissed me off when I had those devices, strangely enough I'm pretty easy with the whole situation. Do I regret getting the N900, nope still cant see an alternative out there for my needs.
(Apologies in advance to those that did not buy on contract).
The competition entice customers to upgrade by offering improved hardware but still supporting old customers, while Nokia "entice" customers to upgrade by shutting down firmware updates!
Phones aren't cheap, and there is no respect for loyalty from Nokia. Times are changing, Nokia should too.
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2010-01-29
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How about OUR elected council members stand up and make our statement heard. I think the only thing Nokia are going to reply to is the patter of feet leaving the Maemo Open source door. If ,and that is a big if, Nokia eventually officially announce non compatibility for Maemo 6 and the N900 we as their Beta Testers should show them we will not stand for it. Why should we be non paid, non appreciated, non informed and non listened to Bug fixers, App writers and indeed customer relation managers. The majority of new personel on here from Sep last year onwards only did so after hearing about the Flagship device Nokia was releasing. The amount of times a thread has been answered with the time old "Next firmware release", "Be patient and Nokia will announce" and the best one "It'll be fixed in Harmattan". This device cost alot of money and indeed will be some peoples main phone for the next 2 years. To stop supporting it after only 1(ONE) month is not only rediculous but god damn insulting.
Anyway just my 2 cents....
Last edited by casper27; 2010-01-29 at 18:30.
Should it ever be confirmed that Harmattan is not going to be made available for the N900 I would urge the Community Council to resign en mass. Everyone should unsubscribe from the mailing lists. Bugzilla accounts should be deleted.
The purpose of filing bugs, and being involved in this community is, if we're honest, mainly selfish as we want to see the products we already own improve. So it really, really sucks to spend all our time finding and filing bugs only to discover that in order to obtain any kind of resolution we need to purchase yet another device costing several hundred pounds/dollars/euros.
Harmattan must be made available for the N900, forcing owners to buy a new device with each OS release is simply the fastest way to alienate customers. And I can't see content partners being too happy about it either.
* Obviously some bugs will be fixed for the current device, but many others never are, and enhancements are can be forgotten.
Anyway just my 2 cents....
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2010-01-29
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Originally Posted by fatalsaint
Than just give the N900 a runaway and tell Nokia what you're thinking about their behaviour.
Correct, not everything works.. but it wasn't abandoned either.
What irks me, as I said, is combination of current problems with the devices, and feature requests for this device (which it's capable of), being marked as fixed in harmattan - and then Nokia saying Harmattan will not be on the N900. Especially this soon after the devices launch.
When you add these two together you get an abandoned device. Certain bug requests not being fixed, and many feature enhancements will not be added. It's a disturbing thought, IMHO.
I like the N900 very much, but if they don't support a 600€ device, I wont buy a device ever again
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2010-01-29
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has there been any offician confirmation that no M6 on n900?
havent previous versions recieved updates
havent previous versions recieved updates
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2010-01-29
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To those worried about long-term support...then just don't get a N900. It's like linux distros. Do I load Fedora/Unbuntu and get the latest and greatest cutting-edge stuff or go for RedHat Enterprise/Debian Stable for 7-year long-term support? Ya can't have it both ways. In this case, the N900 is the cutting-edge choice.
In the tech world there's always something newer and shinier just around the corner that your present PC/TV/phone/microwave/vacumn cleaner can't use. So wait for Maemo 6 or 7 or Android 3 or 4. Wait 'til Apple guarantees 7 year iPhone support. Use a rotary phone. They still work.
I just know this N900 seriously kicks the *** of the G1 it replaced. Whatever bugs are in Maemo 5 aren't bothering me. Everything I struggled to do on the G1 I blast right through with the N900 now. This thing works great for me. If it doesn't get another bug fixed from now on, I'm still glad I ditched Android and bought a N900. And that's the bottom line for me.
In the tech world there's always something newer and shinier just around the corner that your present PC/TV/phone/microwave/vacumn cleaner can't use. So wait for Maemo 6 or 7 or Android 3 or 4. Wait 'til Apple guarantees 7 year iPhone support. Use a rotary phone. They still work.
I just know this N900 seriously kicks the *** of the G1 it replaced. Whatever bugs are in Maemo 5 aren't bothering me. Everything I struggled to do on the G1 I blast right through with the N900 now. This thing works great for me. If it doesn't get another bug fixed from now on, I'm still glad I ditched Android and bought a N900. And that's the bottom line for me.
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2010-01-29
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I also think that the (lots of) complains on talk.maemo.org are having little effect, not to say no effect at all.
The complains must be done directly to Nokia employees who have the authority to give us any definitive answer, and ultimately write to Mobile Review sites and similar media channels to get bad publicity. Sure this would be the last resource since it could hurt Maemo future generally, but as a customer I won't accept to be left with a 2-months old phone already deprecated, and one that I paid big bucks for.
The complains must be done directly to Nokia employees who have the authority to give us any definitive answer, and ultimately write to Mobile Review sites and similar media channels to get bad publicity. Sure this would be the last resource since it could hurt Maemo future generally, but as a customer I won't accept to be left with a 2-months old phone already deprecated, and one that I paid big bucks for.
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2010-01-29
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All I got to say is i left HTC/winmo for this? I was tired of htc hardware short coming with lack of proper drivers for there phones and low specs and even more tired of winmo slow to release a proper rom to the carriers so they can release it to the masses. And when custom roms making your phone better but stop simple but needed features thats not cutting. So I set out to find a new phone. Iphone was out of the question the itouch is all I needed from apple. The palm pre didnt fit my needs and design was not to my liking. The blackberry "paper os" couldn't do much for my needs either. And I just wasn't ready to give google my "soul" just to use one of there phones even though they have pretty okay phones. All the while hunting for a phone all I can remember is how great my nokia n95 8gb was. Than I stumbled across the nokia N900 and was blown away had to have it. Did my research and made the choice to buy it outright(like I do all my phones) and was amazed by it but hearing nokia might not support the device much longer is sadden. They not treating the n900 as a flagship phone should be treated. Nokia really have a gem on they hands just needs to be polished like an gem to truely shine.
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2010-01-29
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
I was in a hurry, didn't recall the original details, and erred to the side of caution.
By "indicators" you mean, of course, the official announcement of support in Harmattan.
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Actually that might not be a bad analogy. T.O. (Terrell Owens, for that part the world that follows a different form of football) is a very gifted player who would be a very desirable player in a single player sport. Unfortunately he plays a team sport and he doesn't work well with the rest of the team.
Nokia, Maemo, and the N900 seem, in a sense, to be like this. Nokia has no overarching team concept when it comes to hardware. One could not upgrade a Nokia device and expect to get the same functionality plus more. Instead, some capabilities will be new, some old capabilities will work better, but some old capabilities may have vanished. Maemo bounces from being Nokia's star to being Nokia's unwanted step-child depending on which company representative is talking to which audience. Then, when you get down to specific implementations, the N900's various apps don't seem to form a team, just a group of players who often seem to be going in opposite directions.
Looking at this jumble is one thing that can make a lesser device like the iPhone attractive. Devices with equivalent or better hardware running Android are even more attractive. And the "we're more open" argument is running thin.