Heh. Was there ever any doubt?

sorry, but for a novice what does this mean. Is there word for java - doubt it

Another novice question. Will I be able to use a java trading application online with this implementation of java?

There are hundreds of data specific internet apps already available. I have had a WiFi and BT enabled iPAQ for years. There are also hundreds of PDA apps written for WinMo.

I didn't feel it was worth the effort to carry it until I had a J2ME emulator installed that could run MIDP 2.0. Only then could I easily check an investment portfolio in near real time and initiate trades, check the OAG data base for available flights to and from any location world wide, determine what the house next door sold for recently, even log on to an intranet and securely manage and edit files.

True, I could only do one function at a time and info could not be shared easily between apps but that is my hope for Linux. Using OS specific commands you could possibly cut and paste or even share classes.

The fact is for most people, even the sexiest electronic PIM features don't outweigh the cost/benefits of just keeping a pad and pencil in their pocket instead. That pro'ly won't change as long the electronic PIM requires a power source other than the human hand.

However, quick and simple internet queries can be invaluable at times. A portable internet connection is worth having for those times and can't be generated using any hand motions that I know of.
J2ME apps are small in size and most avoid all the commercial internet BS because of that. There isn't much room for Trojans and they are transparent enough to easily monitor if there was.

BTW, I'd love to see what this >>http://www.gearlog.com/2007/03/hands...rst_iden_l.php VM looks like. Pretty elegant I would imagine knowing how stingy Motorola/iDEN is with code.

A J2SE JVM with JIT is blocking on GTK 2.10 support, which is earmarked for the N800 anyways --- literally as soon as GTK 2.10 becomes available, I'll have it ready.

J2ME is far more useful, at least to me, since it focuses on phone-centric apps. Small, lightweight, simple, and connected. GMail Mobile leaps to mind.

J2ME Polish is a good example, incidentally, of what can be done.

Given the "fun" of getting even basic PhoneME running, I'm happy to see actual Sun programmers dealing with it

^Exactly... and thanks BTW.


I use a dozen or so daily from my phone even at 21kbps data speeds. I am looking forward to using these apps with the N800.

Also: Coding a J2ME app is relatively painless with plenty of community support available. So easy in fact that I can see companies designing custom apps in house for distribution and use by their consumers...

Think access to your banking records or apps that determine a customers needs for the size, shape, and availability of the product they sell.

On the plus side is that if you don't need that info, you don't have to load or run that app and you are not deluged with distractions and annoyances when you go to the net for the info that you do need.

...kind of like the way the web was before the dot com boom.

I can't wait for this realization. Of course, it just pushes me closer to having to break my MS/Visual Basic shackles and learn another programming paradigm...

Check some of these out... >> http://www.getjar.com/software/Java/Generic

Does this mean we may get to utilized the java accelerator chip finally

Forgive my ignorance in this: but does any of this mean that it might be possible to use GoToMyPC - which uses a Java client to log in to a remote PC - on the N800?

I already run a VNC server on my home PC and access it using the N800 VNC client, but GoToMyPC would be preferable for a number of reasons to do with privacy and security....