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crsnwby	2010-02-08 , 00:22
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So Nokia sent it back to you? I assume along the lines of "we never said it did that"... Im curious what your company you work for does? every company I work for would never allow a personal device access to data or infrastructure.. Its standard policy for data protection.

If you got it via the business then swap it out until a fix or new model is available.

Or just setup a rule in your desk mailbox to forward all messages to another mailbox which your device can see as it seems your company doesnt mind where its emails go.

Guber99	2010-02-08 , 01:46
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My corporate email can not be forwarded to another mailbox. The issue is provisioning

crsnwby	2010-02-08 , 02:04
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Why not???

goto tools.. rules and alerts... add new rule... easy peasy.

Its the same as putting the email on a dirty device, sending it to a dirty mailbox.

wmarone	2010-02-08 , 02:14
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Originally Posted by Guber99

My corporate email can not be forwarded to another mailbox. The issue is provisioning

I'm not up to speed on what "provisioning" means in this context, as a result I'm in the dark as to what people have been going on and on and on about. Could you define it for me (Google isn't terribly helpful.)

To note, I have a real job and connect to my work's exchange server without issue as of PR1.1 so refrain from snide comments.

crsnwby	2010-02-08 , 02:32
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Originally Posted by Guber99

Nonprovisioning is a known issue with N900. Many, many individuals with real jobs and real companies that require provisioning have complained about not being able to sync with their servers. There are however plenty of Nokia apologizers who are happy with what they got. For me corporate email is must, and iphone 3GS works great

This probably didnt help your cause much on this one... stating real job implying others dont have real jobs.

A real job would have a provisioning system in place for tested devices which they pre prod test and purchase for you, as for iPhone for business, its potentially the worst phone ever for business application, lack of business card compatibility with most other phones, massive software exploits like ssh etc. For checking email its a good device but thats it in business application.

Knowing nothing about provisioning or exchange setup a 6 to 7 second google search gives me this....
You can ask your exchange gurus at work to do this then it will work.

Apply enable unsupported devices.

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Guber99	2010-02-08 , 03:01
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Originally Posted by crsnwby

This probably didnt help your cause much on this one... stating real job implying others dont have real jobs.

A real job would have a provisioning system in place for tested devices which they pre prod test and purchase for you, as for iPhone for business, its potentially the worst phone ever for business application, lack of business card compatibility with most other phones, massive software exploits like ssh etc. For checking email its a good device but thats it in business application.

Knowing nothing about provisioning or exchange setup a 6 to 7 second google search gives me this....
You can ask your exchange gurus at work to do this then it will work.

Apply enable unsupported devices.

Actually in the U.S. iphone has become as popular as blackberry for business and does support provisioning. My nokia e71 and e51 work well with my job email, however the problem with n900 is when the server asks it for provisioning, it doesnt support it. My IT department, as well as that of many others here who have had similar issues, will NOT change their settings because of one obscure device such as N900.

Guber99	2010-02-08 , 03:05
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Originally Posted by wmarone

I'm not up to speed on what "provisioning" means in this context, as a result I'm in the dark as to what people have been going on and on and on about. Could you define it for me (Google isn't terribly helpful.)

To note, I have a real job and connect to my work's exchange server without issue as of PR1.1 so refrain from snide comments.

Good for you. No such luck here.....what I meant by not real job, is that MANY large companies have layers of IT security, one of which is provisioning. This higher tier of security is clearly not supported by N900.....I am one of many who have had this issue, on this forum and others.

sjgadsby	2010-02-08 , 03:09
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Originally Posted by wmarone

I'm not up to speed on what "provisioning" means in this context, as a result I'm in the dark as to what people have been going on and on and on about. Could you define it for me...

I'm sure there exists a better document at explaining provisioning, but Exchange 2007 ActiveSync policies should provide you with an idea of the wide range of security policies an Exchange admin can a demand a mobile device follow in order to sync. A provisionable device is one that can, and will, follow at least one or more of those policies when asked to do so.

Please note though that nothing requires a provisionable device to support all those policies listed in the document above. In fact, as I understand it, many provisionable devices only support a small subset of all the possible policies. Therefore, it is quite possible to have a provisionable device that's rejected by your employer's Exchange server.

A non-provisionable device, on the other hand, simply blows a raspberry at the Exchange server as soon as the server begins listing demands. This, of course, leads to an immediate severing of the ActiveSync connection.

vitaly_repin, a MfE developer with Nokia, has previously provided examples as to why provisioning is not supported on the N900. Mostly it seems to boil down to Nokia taking a position of "if you're going to do it, do it right", which is the hardest, longest path to follow.

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crsnwby	2010-02-08 , 03:18
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Originally Posted by Guber99

Actually in the U.S. iphone has become as popular as blackberry for business and does support provisioning. My nokia e71 and e51 work well with my job email, however the problem with n900 is when the server asks it for provisioning, it doesnt support it. My IT department, as well as that of many others here who have had similar issues, will NOT change their settings because of one obscure device such as N900.

Then dont buy an n900, goto your purchasing department and ask them to buy you a tested device. Dont complain about it, it seems you didnt fully read up on it or know about provisiong before buying it.

Guber99	2010-02-08 , 03:24
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Originally Posted by crsnwby

Then dont buy an n900, goto your purchasing department and ask them to buy you a tested device. Dont complain about it, it seems you didnt fully read up on it or know about provisiong before buying it.

Of course I will complain about it. Deceitful advertising on the part of Nokia. They advertised it as supporting MfE. MfE for me always meant being able to connect to work as Nokia E71 did. The blame should be on Nokia, not on the consumer.