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Originally Posted by Guber99 View Post
nokia definitelly mass marketed this device.....got to NOKIA USA and it blazes the front pages as the next best thing......i saw it has MfE and assumed I can get my corporate emails......i was wrong.....this device is useless to me as i cant get my email.
Like Kathy said, sounds like U have the making of a nice law suit. I can see it now:

gube: "But judge, I can't get my email!?! Nokia promised!!!"

Ur Honor: "I see what U're saying, all the facts seem to line up. Let it be so. Grant this poor soul 1 BILLION dollars."

Is that it? U're looking for money? Or do U just have nothing better to do with your 2nd 3GS than to spam this forum? U, sir, are a wild man. With a real job at a real company, no less. How do U find the time? Sweet!
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Originally Posted by Matan View Post
So when you buy a pizza, the first thing you ask is whether it is poisoned? When you book a hotel room, do you enquire about the room having a roof?
Serious analogy failure. Suggest reboot or possible reflash of analogy generator.
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I fnd myself reflecting that this in one instance in which disloyalty has paid off. I've had a palm device. I've had symbian. I've had a couple of sony-ericssons. And each phone came with a completely different feature set, method of operating and availablity of additional software.

So when I moved to Yet Another OS, I came with no expectations whatsoever. Hence, I was not disappointed.

For someone who's had a run of, say, symbian products, it must be challenging to get the grips with the idea that the feature set is 'symbian' not 'phone'. Especially if all the devices have been from the same manufacturer. It's like saying "I've had four dell products and they've all done the same thing" not noticing that the fifth is a Mac or linux device rather than windows.

Again, I was lucky, I've had precisely 2 nokia devices. One is my NHS supplied phone. It does calls. If you're really patient it will just about do sms. It has a choice of 12 ghastly plinky ringtones, which operate for all calls. On the strength of it, I swore once I would never buy a nokia device. Thankfully, my n95 cured me of that. But my dear old NHS brick (which is in its box on the shelf - my n95 now carries the NHS sim card) taught me something about the difference between manufacturer and operating system. When I was choosing the n900, the alternative was a non-nokia symbian device: I knew what symbian would do.

I guess what I struggle with is that the information was there. Indeed, it was here. I turned up here with a list of 'must haves, wants and don't care abouts' and simply asked the community: which of these will it do? Others have done the same. And while some have been greeted with "Read the wiki" or "Use the search" usually some good hearted soul will come along and answer. Believe it or not, happy n900 users don't want people to buy the phone and hate it if it won't meet their needs.

I feel terribly sorry for people who have bought the phone based on expectations about its features drawn from other nokia devices. Please don't hang around here being miserable. Send the device back. Sell it. Get something that will make you happy.

Mind, I'm mildly jealous of anyone who can spend that sort of money without doing hours and hours of research - I know I did.
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Well, Cathy, I have had a couple of Siemens and a HP and a Sony or two, and no Nokia Phone. Not once have I had the same OS more than once on a handheld device. But guess what... The basic features that people are surprised are missing on the N900... They're not missing on any of those.

If people are surprised some things are missing, chances are that they're not things that people would expect to have to check in advance to find out if are missing. Did you google/search to check if you could use other standard micro USB chargers before you bought the N900? I doubt that. Did you google/search to check if the car had a horn last time you bought a car? I doubt that, too. It's not the decision point because every car has a horn.

Until you buy one that doesn't.

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Did you google/search to check if you could use other standard micro USB chargers before you bought the N900? I doubt that.
Nope. Having had sony ericssons, I'm well used to only being able to charge and connect with the proprietry supplied cable. So I wasn't a bit surprised. (their connectors suck - you can't even use a standard set of headphones). I didn't check because I didnt care.

Did you google/search to check if the car had a horn last time you bought a car? I doubt that, too. It's not the decision point because every car has a horn.

Until you buy one that doesn't.
In the country I live in, a working horn is a legal requirement, so I wouldn't need to check. Same with seatbelts. A heated rear window, on the other hand, is something I have never been without but would still check, as it's not a legal requirement.

Basically, if something really mattered to me, however much I'd had it on other devices, I'd check it was there.
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Some people act as if they've never been disappointed with a purchase in their consumer lives. Some people react totally differently than others.

And since it's around a device that some of you have decided to loathe or love; the reactions seem to forget that you've either been totally happy or totally disappointed around a purchase. Buyer's remorse is real... and the whole thing about "do research" - there's a whole lot of points not covered.

For instance, pertaining provisioning... use Google. You'll find threads that are here... and not much more. Pertaining GPS lock speed... you'll find threads that are here and at Nokia discussions; but not in the documentation or sales part.

Would a company with a product boast about the bad things? Of course not. But hell, some of this "research" that people are pointing to just does not exist. That's not a justification for the tireless posting ad nauseum about the same thing(s) over and over; but there is no place for some of this information online.

Not all customers call the manufacturer - you'll get the same stuff as the website. Or some poorly written script - I'm an iPhone owner, I got worked up because they couldn't answer one simple question. It took a Google search, one HELLUVA disgruntled dude on their own forums for me to find an answer. Not in their documents, not via their phone support, not via their sales spiel.

Anyway, from my point of view, both sides - the people that are "whining" and the people that are "supporting" - are acting rather puerile.

Flame on, I don't care. Just starting to really dislike this place due to the "I hate it" and the inevitable "I hate you" responses to the people that are actually unhappy about missing features that they "might" expect to have in a phone in 2010 or if their USB port falls out or if they don't want to hack their phone. Pertaining the USB port, Quim made one statement saying it was addressed... since then 30+ pages of people stating otherwise. If I were to trust that one Nokia post - of which ZERO have come after that - then I'd be pissed. And that's with research.

Research helps... it's not as solid as you folks sometimes point it out to be.

There... I feel a whole lot better.

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I actually have a website... without a single article, I admit, whose purpose is to vent about features that should have been in products but aren't. :B

It is possible to be both disgruntled and creative. Actually I think it helps to be disgruntled, or you'd walk through life being happy wearing a leaf.
 
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Originally Posted by UNderworld View Post
who would buy it if they knew what it is??
Originally Posted by geneven View Post
I would and did.
I did too....
 
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Originally Posted by RevdKathy View Post
Nope. Having had sony ericssons, I'm well used to only being able to charge and connect with the proprietry supplied cable.
Actually, on these standard USB chargers, I can easily charge your Sony Ericssons, by changing a tip. Not so, with the N900.

And I'm with the fellas here, I bought it knowing what it was. But not quite convinced, tbh. There were features missing I wished wasn't missing.
 
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This mobile computer is built in a way that it can be customized and programmed to support all your communication needs. It's just the time that all these unreal/missing issues of "operating in portrait mode, adding ringtone to each contact, MMS, creating profiles" etc would be available very soon...

People who spent around $500 (equivalent to local currency in any country) to buy this "smart phone" doesn't have time to do a very little research about the "smart phone" you're buying then they have themselves to blame...

These days innovation is too much involved in each gadget...In last couple of years "smart phone -- a phone which is smart enough to do almost everything of your communication need" has peaked to the height so that one must spare and spend little time to buy something worth $500...same persons, I bet, when went/want to buy a TV of $700 around spent more than hell amount of time for it...why? It's just a TV, if you turn it on it will show you display...but then comes questions of HDTV, HDMI inputs, LCD, Plasma, 1080p, 120 Hz, reviews of buyers, good deals around town, asking friends...

So point is...buying a $500 phone in a blink of eye...whereas buying a $700 TV after a month of looking around in stores/sites...

Isn't that additional $200 too much justified just because size/shape of gadget is different?

And, of course who-ever has bought 7-8 previous nokia phones, should have spent average $100/$125 the most...why would you not consider twice for doing little research if N900 price is $500, 4 times more than average you spent on those old fashioned "phones" and not the "smart phone" or "mobile computer" for heck...

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