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2010-02-17
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#1082
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Originally Posted by Addison
I forgot, what is the reason for you to be using DC over TOR? For me, TOR has worked almost flawlessly on my n810. Its my n900 thats been having issues...
Having a texting conversation with a friend turns into an LED blinkfest.
Is there a better solution for this? I know that a notification one minute after a sent message is no longer a priority for you so I'm not sure if anything can be done here.
Originally Posted by Addison
Are you referring to the dialog where you type in SMS messages? When you open it, it should be scrolled to the bottom with the last message highlighted.
One simple request. Could you put in a Page Down code when replying to a message?
It seems unnecessary to always have to scroll to the bottom of a conversation when replying.
Originally Posted by Addison
DC could work in portrait for everything but SMS entry. I could go ahead and add portrait support, but I would only be developing/testing for n900 (I've not installed any of the portrait hacks on my n810).
In regards to the user interface, have you had any thoughts about going with a portrait mode?
That probably will give you the best appearance of making your application feel like a phone. Maybe even throw in a simple clock somewhere as well.
As it is now, portrait mode cuts out too much of the text.
My thought is eventually I need to rewrite my apps in QT and I was thinking of holding of portrait support till then.
Originally Posted by Addison
Eric (brontide) who moved away from the Maemo community temporarily and then completely, a year or two ago. He took over development from the original author and then eventually I took over development from him. For an example, here is an old post of his (I'm the third developer he mentioned, adding support initially for native login).
By the way, when did you turn from Eric to Ed? Do I even know you? *lol*
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2010-02-17
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#1083
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Originally Posted by mrdally204
My concern with this is you can't hand enter the numbers (though I assume people usually use their contact list for broadcast sms's).
For SMS broadcast, bring up the menu as you do now, but have a new button that says "more" or something similar, which brings your to a check box menu of your contacts.
If the contact has multiple numbers I guess you can open a new window to ask, or list all numbers in the check box screen.
I'm still not positive how I see it yet
My thought went along these lines:
SMS Entry dialog turns into a window. You can switch back from it to the main window. When you select another number through any of the tabs it gets added to the SMS. The area where I show the conversation history is replaced by a list of target contacts. Clicking on them will allow you to switch the contacts number. Next to the contact is a remove button. When you delete all but one contact the view reverts back to the conversation history.
Closing the window clears all of this.
Thoughts?
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2010-02-17
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#1084
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Little sleepy so I'm having a hard time visualizing it from your description. will read it a few more times thought
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2010-02-17
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#1085
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I didn't realize that ToR had already come that far in development. Looks like I'll be pestering you on that instead from now on. 
With the SMS reply entry, yeah, it scrolls to the bottom of the last message just fine. The thing I tried to mention earlier, and I'm sure my wording was off on this, is that when you tap on the text entry location to start typing, the hildon keyboard covers the area.
Like when you type something in the MicroB or Tear browser, if the text area is below the hildon keyboard, it shifts the page up for you to see.
With DC, the hildon keyboard just folds over that area and I always have to scroll down to the very end, so that when I start typing, the text is at the top of the screen and not underneath the keyboard.
I was hoping that this would be a simple, single line of code for you to do. If it's more than that, consider this a very low priority request.
I think why you had me confused earlier is because I could have sworn I've called you Eric before in some of my old SMS texts I sent you and you never bothered to yell at me for that.
Anyway, I'll look into hacking the matchbox keyboard. It's very weird how the layout, geometry and key symbols were compiled to make it work, using multiple files for it.
Getting a finger friendly keyboard like the Iphone is something I've wanted for awhile now.
It would be perfect for DC so maybe I can make something of it and let you know.
Either 8 or 10 buttons per row is exactly divisible for a 480 width screen.
I think that 6 rows for 8 columns or 5 rows for 10 columns would fit well on the screen.
So yeah, I'll see if this is something possible to do since I doubt you would enjoy making your own keyboard for DC from scratch, kind of like how the guy who made Xword did for his crossword puzzle port.
With the SMS reply entry, yeah, it scrolls to the bottom of the last message just fine. The thing I tried to mention earlier, and I'm sure my wording was off on this, is that when you tap on the text entry location to start typing, the hildon keyboard covers the area.
Like when you type something in the MicroB or Tear browser, if the text area is below the hildon keyboard, it shifts the page up for you to see.
With DC, the hildon keyboard just folds over that area and I always have to scroll down to the very end, so that when I start typing, the text is at the top of the screen and not underneath the keyboard.
I was hoping that this would be a simple, single line of code for you to do. If it's more than that, consider this a very low priority request.
I think why you had me confused earlier is because I could have sworn I've called you Eric before in some of my old SMS texts I sent you and you never bothered to yell at me for that.
Anyway, I'll look into hacking the matchbox keyboard. It's very weird how the layout, geometry and key symbols were compiled to make it work, using multiple files for it.
Getting a finger friendly keyboard like the Iphone is something I've wanted for awhile now.
It would be perfect for DC so maybe I can make something of it and let you know.
Either 8 or 10 buttons per row is exactly divisible for a 480 width screen.
I think that 6 rows for 8 columns or 5 rows for 10 columns would fit well on the screen.
So yeah, I'll see if this is something possible to do since I doubt you would enjoy making your own keyboard for DC from scratch, kind of like how the guy who made Xword did for his crossword puzzle port.
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2010-02-17
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#1086
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Originally Posted by Addison
It is rare that I get a complaint for the Maemo 4.1. I've also not seen any issues of note. I've actually been tempted to promote it to Extras.
I didn't realize that ToR had already come that far in development. Looks like I'll be pestering you on that instead from now on.
Originally Posted by Addison
There is probably something I can do about adjusting my window when the OSK comes up but I do not know what it is or how worth it is. Physical keyboards are just easier to design for
With the SMS reply entry, yeah, it scrolls to the bottom of the last message just fine. The thing I tried to mention earlier, and I'm sure my wording was off on this, is that when you tap on the text entry location to start typing, the hildon keyboard covers the area.
Like when you type something in the MicroB or Tear browser, if the text area is below the hildon keyboard, it shifts the page up for you to see.
With DC, the hildon keyboard just folds over that area and I always have to scroll down to the very end, so that when I start typing, the text is at the top of the screen and not underneath the keyboard.
I was hoping that this would be a simple, single line of code for you to do. If it's more than that, consider this a very low priority request.
.Oh and I have previously implemented my own OSK, modeled after my favorite keyboard for the Palm. It wasn't a plugin to Maemo though. Its a part of my calculator that I've used as a Touch UI sandbox known as "ejpi".
Originally Posted by Addison
I must have missed it.
I think why you had me confused earlier is because I could have sworn I've called you Eric before in some of my old SMS texts I sent you and you never bothered to yell at me for that.
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2010-02-17
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#1087
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wow could you hard code a keyboard into DC? It never crossed my mind before and while a huge waste of design time would be friggin saweet. Alow it to be skinable (if possible) and let others play
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2010-02-17
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Originally Posted by mrdally204
In essence Dialcentral and ejpi both have a hard coded keyboard. Dialcentral's focuses on numbers (the dialpad) and ejpi's focuses on math operations (but the alphabet is there).
wow could you hard code a keyboard into DC? It never crossed my mind before and while a huge waste of design time would be friggin saweet. Alow it to be skinable (if possible) and let others play
Is it an effective use of my time? Probably not. Rather than re-inventing the wheel I rather use whats out there unless it serves a very distinct purpose (like in the Dialpad or ejpi)
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2010-02-17
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#1089
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Depending on what type of logic you can build into it it could make it quicker and easier to type. use larger buttons with 3-4 letters in it and have predictive typing figure out what you are typing. I find the OSK sometimes fine others almost unusable. Thank goodness for the keyboard
*Edit TOR short for The One Ring. use the search located somewhere around ^
Last edited by mrdally204; 2010-02-17 at 02:22.
*Edit TOR short for The One Ring. use the search located somewhere around ^
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2010-02-17
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O.K. I give, what is TOR? 
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