Aflegg does contribute. And he is greatly appreciated.

That said, the n800 and iPhone have too much feature crossover. Nokia isn't targeting hackers and programmers. Consumers barely know how to install apps. They will use the built in apps 90% of the time.

Which consumers are you talking about? The N800 is not a consumer device, and has a very and I mean very limited following, where as the iPhone is marketed as a cross-consumer device. Appealing to young and old, men and women, etc..... Show me where the N800 even comes close to such mass appeal, and please don't use the old tired, "people are stupid and will fall for anything" argument as this can be said about those who purchased the N800.

If you want a iPhone you should probably consider an alternative. Devices like the Sony Ericsson W950i have been out for more than a year. Its got touchscreen, "full-internet browsing", mp3 player, allows third party apps (my brother has tomtom on it and worldmate) and etc. Word of advice, if you have all this already, buying the iPhone for $500-599 will only had a few extra feature, try not to buy it because you can resize photos in a new way and the screen turns when your hand turns (which is what most people are attracted to).. all you doing then by buying this is trying to show off - if thats the main reasons you're buying the phone, I mean really there is nothing that special about this phone, get over this phone already. Oooo, white, silver and shiny finish - give me break. old news.

An alternative to what? There are many people that actually like this device and this seems to be the problem with this particular thread. From the tone of many of the posts here, people that would spend THEIR money on it tend to be looked down upon as "fanboys", "stupid", "Apple maniacs", "susceptible to Apple's evil marketing tactics", etc..... It is their choice, their money and last but not least, their business.

I don't care if it's Nokia/Apple or whoever I just want a handheld device that allows me to have FULL web-browsing and messaging functionality, the ability to make phone calls would be a plus and a nice interface UI is definitely a plus... which is why I use the XP skin on my N800 because it "LOOKS" great.

Price is not the issue if I actually get what I paid for...

Easy to hold case that looks stylish is great to... Do I think I would get an iPhone... probably not... unless of course I play with one and am impressed, so far I am not jumping out of my boots to get one...

All I know is that from my experience of Nokia phones, to my N-gage to my N800... that I have a bad taste in my mouth...

@Testerj,

More good points. Wasted though I think. I feel the exact same way. I have the N95 and even though it has some issues, I prefer it much, much more to the N800 that I had. I would not even take an N800 if someone was giving it away unless to sell it of course and buy something else.

I just wonder why this sort of exaggerated statements are necessary.

N800 may have its flaws, but for most of us it is stable, does what it is supposed to do and we are happy with it.

I am a newbie on here & technology is not my thing, but I just wanted to say that I also love my N800 - but then I don't really have anything else to compare it against. I certainly won't be getting rid of mine anytime soon.

All I will say is it does what I want it to, mainly internet access & the ability to see & chat with my 3 year old daughter when I am away with work.

Well good for you... go join the fanboy club... I haven't found any application thats bug free... when sending emails it doesn't know when to properly capatilize things.. the touch screen works ok some times.. then others it doesn't...

If you think it's a finished product great, maybe I should become a salesperson so I can sell you some bird poop and tell you it's a 3 course meal

Before you become a salesperson, you had better grow up first and learn how to talk with adult people.