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#31
For eff's sake...

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/...iew_looks_.php

Symbian lag? I got an E71, and it is way more quick than my N800... And if the UI bores you, a whole new one is coming with S^4 this year!
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Originally Posted by mrojas View Post
For eff's sake...

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/...iew_looks_.php

Symbian lag? I got an E71, and it is way more quick than my N800... And if the UI bores you, a whole new one is coming with S^4 this year!
Well I'm not that into physical-keyed devices anymore, but try out the 5800 for example, and tell me that flicking through menus is faster than on the E71. Well, you'll notice its the same, which makes no sense considering the amount of power needed to run those two very different resolutions!

I'm currently using the N95 8Gb for a while and I recognize the same lag in navigating around the menus, although other multimedia orientated things the device does with huge speed. My point is, that newer more powerful devices essentially running the same OS don't work as fluently as Maemo or one doesn't work faster than the other, so it's not even about the power of the device! Its something inherent to Symbian SXXth ed. I was used to it too, but not anymore ...

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Originally Posted by cjp View Post
Well I'm not that into physical-keyed devices anymore, but try out the 5800 for example, and tell me that flicking through menus is faster than on the E71. Well, you'll notice its the same, which makes no sense considering the amount of power needed to run those two very different resolutions!

I'm currently using the N95 8Gb for a while and I recognize the same lag in navigating around the menus, although other multimedia orientated things the device does with huge speed. My point is, that newer more powerful devices essentially running the same OS don't work as fluently as Maemo, so it's not even about the power of the device! Its something inherent to Symbian SXXth ed. I was used to it too, but not anymore ...
Well, for starters, your devices have the latest firmware? Then, how it can inherent is many other devices (the newer E-Series devices would be an example) doesn't have such lag? Also, so far no Symbian device have the hardware that the N900 has. Maemo needs powerful hardare to run.

I would go as far as saying that your particular problems come from Symbian^1 struggling in bigger displays, because it wasn't designed to work with those, something that Symbian^3 addresses with hardware acceleration and memory optimization.

Seriously, do some research.

Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1hDe...eature=related

Compare it to an N8x0 running Diablo...
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Cortex A8's neon unit executes in parallell with the arm core too, almost like a second processor... And the DSP is of course even more independent.
 

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Originally Posted by mrojas View Post
Symbian^3 (showed at MWC)
See here for the other side of the story.
 
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Originally Posted by SubCore View Post
why would you want a snapdragon in the first place?
don't let the hertz fool you.
Originally Posted by joshv06 View Post
I agree, I'm fine with the 600mhz in my N900, I would've liked more RAM but 1GHZ for a phone is pushing it in my opinion. Battery life is also an essential for phones, we still need that balance between power and power.
I THINK that is the attraction with snapdragon (as opposed to an Intel) the mobile battery life.
 
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I'm always running the latest firmware, trust me.

Well look this is just a matter of personal preference.

And sorry, I wasn't clear enough when I talked about "Maemo". I meant Maemo 5 on the N900. So sorry, should've said this at once.
 
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The real question is, how many people here new to Maemo would still get the N900 if it had a Snapdragon CPU (with other words, no multi-tasking beyond 10 apps and no Bounce Evolution).
 
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Originally Posted by DaveP1 View Post
Then again, maybe the N1000 will end up with Intel Inside to go with Meego. Intel Moorestown ULV Atom chip 1.6 GHz. I could live with that.
Whether most users would want something like this would probably depend on the Moorestown battery life.


Nokia should be aiming to increase the battery life with new devices compared to the N900, not reduce further from it. For me, the minimum should be 48 hours with a general usage pattern (not 'idle').


Originally Posted by jcompagner View Post
i want to have more cores instead of more mhz..
i would love to have a Cortext A9 in dual core configuration..
Indeed the dual core OMAP4 sounds interesting if the battery life claims are true/applicable...

Originally Posted by slashgear.com
a roughly 1,000 mAh battery would be good for 30 to 50 hours of MP3 playback with an OMAP3, the OMAP4 will offer up to 145 hours


Nokia needs to remember this is being used as a phone, not just a portable media device or small netbook which is usually only switched on when in use, and not used throughout the day.

Also, Nokia could help the battery life situation in future devices by possibly using an OLED display (although an equivalent resolution OLED display might not have been available) and a larger battery (the n900 BL-5J has 1320 mAh, while the E-72 BP-4L is a 1500 mAh part).

 
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Originally Posted by zehjotkah View Post
I think, that it is unlikely, because Nokia is working tight together with TI. Almost every mobile from Nokia is using a TI chipset.
There are also some Nokia mobiles which uses chipsets from Freescale.
 
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