Originally Posted by mrojas

I must say, we keep walking in circles time and time again, in many threads, but we won't break the cycle until this question is answered clearly.

Or until a Maemo 5 roadmap is revealed that addresses what people is asking for (more portrait, Java, profiles, etc).

Originally Posted by wazd

I just can't resist.
You all, ranting bout apple iphone updates are quite narrow minded.

First. iPhone 2G has half baked 3.0 update and won't be supported in the future.

Second. You're missing the point of actually open os. If iPhone user won't get an update - he's doomed to live with current software. If maemo user doesn't have a feature that he wants - he creates it with his own hands. Look at fmms or USSD dialer. Or many other apps. This is how it works here, welcome to the wonderful new world, where creators can breathe. If you came up with something worthy but you can't do it yourself - just ask the community, we're much friendlier than you think.

Originally Posted by qole

I have hundreds of subscribed threads in this forum. Only a handful of them have any of this activity in them.

Originally Posted by qole

If you're reading threads with sensational titles about topics which have very little solid information about them, you're asking for rants, FUD, and noise. I usually keep one or two of these threads in my subscription list for fun, but mostly I ignore them.

Originally Posted by Texrat

I'll take exception to part of that with this caveat: proactive thread moderation, ie steering the topic, can go a long way toward defusing troll-type threads

Originally Posted by gerbick

Great idea; however I quite don't see how this cleans up the FUD. Seems to have concentrated the FUD.

Originally Posted by craftyguy

I totally agree. Forget how Apple or Google handle updates. It's irrelevant. What is relevant is how good both companies are about lining out device support the day a new update is announced

Originally Posted by gerbick

Seems to have concentrated the FUD.

Originally Posted by qgil

Sure. Please note that no new update has been announced, though. We haven't even made a first Harmattan pre-release. And MeeGo doesn't exist today even in its most unstable form.

Weeks ago I said in the oldest 'Harmattan in the N900' thread that there were new things in the pipeline and that before a Harmattan alpha release (promised for 1Q2010, working on it) it was really premature to discuss or announce anything.

This is still the case. Maemo 5 is still a fresh stable release in expansion, with new updates to come and more software coming to Ovi and maemo.org. Harmattan/MeeGo are in pre-alpha state, we haven't even put together an early SDK for the most adventurous developers, we haven't given any hardware details about the next device...

One thing is that some users have a high interest knowing what all this implies in terms of N900 support. Another thing is to expect official announcements and promises at this point, considering that the lack of it is unacceptable.

I'm not arguing the right to know. I'm only questioning this situation in which experienced users demand an annoucement about a release that hasn't been announced, before even a first most unstable pre-release is available.

Originally Posted by ewan

It seems to me that Quim is attempting to stem or corral the FUD that is spreading around the place. It further seems to me that there are two ways you can do that:

• Stop people talking about this stuff, or less drastically restrict such discussions to particular places,
• Give people some actual solid facts, and let the fears and uncertainties naturally go away.

It's not clear which of those two approaches the proposed wiki page/thread is going to be taking.