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2010-03-08 , 20:50
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#31
Originally Posted by craftyguy View Post
What a horrible "official" response to this issue from Nokia. Yes it's an official response because you represent Nokia as an employee.
Discouraging others from participating in debugging your buggy software just because they have privacy issues?? Tisk tisk..
So you want to get your bug fixed but don't want to even give your email address to the people that will fix your bug? (aka everybody, since this is OSS). What a weird point of view.

Email addresses --you need to share them to allow people to message you. That's how they work.

And this is really a nonissue since getting more addresses is so damn easy (well, spam and spambots is another story and the reason one might hide them from the open internet)... Facebook didn't get in trouble because of this.
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2010-03-08 , 20:56
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#32
Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
Then it's probably best that you cease your participation on bugs.maemo.org.
Well, you certainly don't see my name on any of the long bugs anyway.

Fortunately, when I registered, I used a brand new email address (which now that I mentioned it will likely start getting spammed endlessly, o well such is life)
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2010-03-08 , 21:04
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#33
Originally Posted by javispedro View Post
So you want to get your bug fixed but don't want to even give your email address to the people that will fix your bug? (aka everybody, since this is OSS). What a weird point of view.

Email addresses --you need to share them to allow people to message you. That's how they work.

And this is really a nonissue since getting more addresses is so damn easy (well, spam and spambots is another story and the reason one might hide them from the open internet)... Facebook didn't get in trouble because of this.
Totally missing the point. There was no warning that his email address was going to be made public. If he had known, he could have used a "throwaway" address instead of the one he'd rather have kept private ( or for selective personal use).
 

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2010-03-08 , 21:04
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Privacy-loving people should already know about mailinator.com and other pages that allow users to create "throw-away" e-mail addresses on the fly.

There also exist services that allow you to create temporary-forwarding addresses that will accept only a few (e.g. 10) mails and then stop fowarding mail to your real address. Can't remember right now how that service is called, though.
 

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2010-03-08 , 21:18
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Originally Posted by tnhh View Post
But it is typically not possible for a mailing list user to see all of the members of a list, as mail messages only go to the mailing list address.

I am a bit disturbed by the somewhat flippant responses to this privacy issue. It reminds me of Google's attitude: http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/12...misses-privacy Just because you don't think that this isn't important doesn't mean that you should dismiss those who think that it is.

I would like to understand why maemo think that they can ignore the DPD, just because it is an upstream bug. The server administrators might want to consider who is responsible for the maemo.org servers and the legal implications thereof. I think you are sorely mistaken if you think that "it's an upstream bug" will hold up in court.
just creating a bugzilla account doesnt give away your email. just like joining mailing list. but what about posting stuff? can you do that anonynously?

...excellent analogy

e: and removing account could leave multiple crippled bugs when ones every piece of content would be removed. what about quoted messages etc?

imo only warning to signup is good enough. its ones own fault if he doesnt read the small print
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Originally Posted by Northerner View Post
Totally missing the point. There was no warning that his email address was going to be made public. If he had known, he could have used a "throwaway" address instead of the one he'd rather have kept private ( or for selective personal use).
was there a promise that it will be kept secret?
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There was no warning that his email address was going to be made public. If he had known, he could have used a "throwaway"
So you're telling me that he didn't read ANY previous bug report before filling his one? Ah well.
 
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2010-03-08 , 21:54
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
craftyguy, note the emoticon after Andre's statement.

What a horrible world we're in if wry humor is now considered... horrible.
Where I come from, emoticons can be thrown in to 'soften' any blatant stabs at someone. I agree it's horrible. privacy is a serious issue for some people, and discouraging them from being involved because of it is the wrong way to go.

NOTE: again, I am NOT concerned with my email getting out, I actively participate in many mailing lists and bugzilla posts.

My point is: Respect people's decision to protect their privacy, and do not ridicule them for making an active decision to protect it. Obviously the OP was not aware of the alternatives (such as creating a bogus email) that are available, and judging by the number of 'thanks" i'm getting for my posts, quite a few other members weren't aware either. Why not make these alternative suggestions available on the registration page? It's not acceptable to expect people who want to protect their privacy to just magically know the alternatives.
 

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Hmm sounds to me like some users have the warning thing backwards. I don't recall ever getting a warning that my email address will be visible. The only notification I've seen is that it will NOT be seen. If no such thing is notified, then one should assume that your email address might be visible to others.

I understand how this can be overlooked by someone, but it would still be that person's fault, and not the systems. The possibility of removing the user should however be present, imo.
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Where I come from, emoticons can be thrown in to 'soften' any blatant stabs at someone. I agree it's horrible. privacy is a serious issue for some people, and discouraging them from being involved because of it is the wrong way to go.
Point missed.

Andre's comment was mild teasing humor. That's all. Attempts to make anything sinister out of it are utterly disingenuous.
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