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majarambuz is offline majarambuz
2010-03-07 , 09:03
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#11
Originally Posted by clasificado View Post
its more like the "new generation interface" standard, that maemo (so nokia) doesnt have the time to do.
Device search is as old as the hills but I'm afraid the Maemo team don't believe in Search much at all. Symbian has had in device search (coupled with Web search) for some time but every time this is raised for Maemo, someone from the the developers answers with why do you want to search, where do you want to search etc.

Same applies for Contact Search. They don't get it that you might want to search for a company name, a phone number, an address.

No, for Search, look on every other OS, but not Maemo. Oh no. We don't do prosaic, useful things like that.

Sorry, but when I see "Asking the other way round: What would you like to search for, and why? ", I get really mad. It's so glaringly obvious why people want to search and every OS has the answer.
 

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nargess is offline nargess
2010-03-09 , 09:55
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#12
Hi All friends,

Sorry for not being able to check your kind replies for some days. Actually my major problem right now is that I have downloaded some applications such as MPLAYER and WORLDTV but I don't see them in the application list, i want to search for them on my phone...

I can see them in the uninstall list, but I can't find them and open them.

I will be thankful if s/o can help
 
Maj3stic is offline Maj3stic
2010-03-09 , 09:58
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#13
I believe the mplayer app is command line only so you should be able to open it up from there if you have the know how. Good Luck.
 
cliffordpascal is offline cliffordpascal
2010-03-09 , 10:45
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#14
Originally Posted by majarambuz View Post
Device search is as old as the hills but I'm afraid the Maemo team don't believe in Search much at all. Symbian has had in device search (coupled with Web search) for some time but every time this is raised for Maemo, someone from the the developers answers with why do you want to search, where do you want to search etc.

Same applies for Contact Search. They don't get it that you might want to search for a company name, a phone number, an address.

No, for Search, look on every other OS, but not Maemo. Oh no. We don't do prosaic, useful things like that.

Sorry, but when I see "Asking the other way round: What would you like to search for, and why? ", I get really mad. It's so glaringly obvious why people want to search and every OS has the answer.
I totally agree with you, I mean for gods sake why on earth would people even question the need for a global search facility. its so obvious.

Sometimes a user wants to search for connected material based on the vagueness of a word but they may not have all the detail. get it?

Example. on my n95 i used to use the global search regularly to search for a picture of the london underground. I could never remember where I filed it on the filesystem so i used the global search. If there was no search i would never have found it as I would be somewhere in the gallery as well as the other 2000 odd pictures. Get it yet?

There is a search facility on the n900 which someone has written but it does not go into file content to search for the search string.

When you have a device that is capable of storing mass amounts of data there should always be a global search option as data piles up and one cannot always remember where the data lives.

I dont see why a user should have to shell out to terminal and type command line syntax just to find a document.

I know the n900 is aimed at the hacker community and development community and its definitely not for the avergae joe but this really is ....quite frankly a pain in the !@£$.

Developers could probably knock this app up in 20 minutes.

If I were a developer or I had the time to learn hell i would do it myself.

Honeslty "why do we need a global gui search utility ? " ....come on now isn't it obvious.....answer. I dont want to type in code to find a file or it's contents!
 

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Rob1n is offline Rob1n
2010-03-09 , 10:45
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Originally Posted by nargess View Post
Hi All friends,

Sorry for not being able to check your kind replies for some days. Actually my major problem right now is that I have downloaded some applications such as MPLAYER and WORLDTV but I don't see them in the application list, i want to search for them on my phone...

I can see them in the uninstall list, but I can't find them and open them.

I will be thankful if s/o can help
Neither of those will show up in the application list - MPLAYER is command-line only, and WORLDTV is just a set of internet streaming URLs for use with KMPLAYER (which it should have installed automatically).
 

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rivierakid is offline rivierakid
2010-03-09 , 10:53
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Originally Posted by cliffordpascal View Post
Developers could probably knock this app up in 20 minutes.

If I were a developer or I had the time to learn hell i would do it myself.

Honeslty "why do we need a global gui search utility ? " ....come on now isn't it obvious.....answer. I dont want to type in code to find a file or it's contents!
I would go a little further and insist on *instant* search a la Google Desktop, not just a front-end to the 'find' command. If I'm looking for something it's because I want it now, not in five minutes once 'find' has scanned the entire filesystem.
 
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2010-03-09 , 10:54
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Originally Posted by cliffordpascal View Post
I mean for gods sake why on earth would people even question the need for a global search facility. its so obvious.
I question it because I know where I put my stuff and I don't want the overhead of a process that has to index everything I put on the device and keep it up-to-date. My battery life is crap enough already & my N900 lags plenty as it is.

Application-level search (in email, lists of mp3s etc) is fine and necessary. I don't want an extra layer on top of that.

I don't object to having it available if other people are less organised than me, but personally I would disable it given the choice.

Hope that helps you see the non-obvious
 

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nargess is offline nargess
2010-03-09 , 10:57
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I also forgott o say that.... forexample I have a word file and I don't remember now where and in which folder I have saved this file.... how should I find it on Nokia N900?
 
cliffordpascal is offline cliffordpascal
2010-03-09 , 11:32
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Originally Posted by nargess View Post
I also forgott o say that.... forexample I have a word file and I don't remember now where and in which folder I have saved this file.... how should I find it on Nokia N900?
I think this is an app that should be included in the standard firmware release.

Can I get an Amen.....

Can I get some support on this....?
 

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2010-03-09 , 11:42
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so this does work? i tried it and could never find anything
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