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What happens if we don't get five people standing? Or if we only get five candidates? Do we even bother with an election? Seems like it would be a bit of a sham.
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Is there any info availeable about the next Maemo council in relation to the whole "Meego transition"? Will they have any influence/input/power in that and so forth.


Sorry, if that was bit off-topic, but didn't know better thread to ask about it and it would seem to be at least somewhat important question concerning next council and it's election.
 
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Originally Posted by Rauha View Post
Is there any info availeable about the next Maemo council in relation to the whole "Meego transition"? Will they have any influence/input/power in that and so forth.
That is the best information I have found so far :

http://wiki.maemo.org/What_can_we_re...he_council_.3F
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Quim has expanded on his thoughts via the community mailing list (he is responding to thoughts by candidate Andrea Grandi):

We better make a strong Maemo council election before discussing deeply the MeeGo council. Still, the discussion is worth to prepare current candidates and voters.

> actually we have: Nokia --> Quim Gil --> Council (5 Maemo members)

Right.

> I would expect now: (Nokia + Intel) --> Community Leader (Quim? he

Actually it's not like this. Even if today it might look that way, I beet the picture will be already different by the time a first MeeGo council election eventually comes.

MeeGo is a Linux Foundation project that is pushed initially by Nokia and Intel, who put a big amount of developers, infrastructure and work together to create a free Linux mobile platform. Other organizations and individuals may start contributing, get responsibilities, areas of ownership and eventually make it to leading positions in working groups and the Technical Steering Group.

All this is a meritocratic structure, and it could benefit from a complementary democratic structure. For instance (and I'm improvising here) imagine that the chair of the MeeGo community council would sit in the TSG during the "mandate" period.

> would be fine ) ---> MeeGo Council (2-3 people from Maemo + 2-3
> people from Moblin). In this way we would be sure that both
> communities have a strenght representation in the Council. Of course
> it would be fine too, if in those 2-3 people we would have 1
> @nokia.com and 1 @intel.com....

First why the middlemen like nowadays myself. Once bootstrapped, MeeGo will be an open project in a way Maemo has never been. No NDAs will be needed to operate in MeeGo and define the roadmaps and strategy. The role of the council in this sense needs to be repurposed.

Second, why perpetuating Maemo and Moblin communities. As soon as there is a MeeGo architecture, a MeeGo API and MeeGo devices a new community will flourish. Now all this feels like a departure and a break, but I'm personally so sure that by the end of this year all you N900 users will just feel part of the MeeGo community, feeling Maemo as some kind of motherland identity embedded and not in conflict with MeeGo. I know well because this is how I feel already today, after some time working for this project and a good grasp of how life in the MeeGo project is going to be once code, releases and web spaces are deployed.

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Originally Posted by qole View Post
What happens if we don't get five people standing? Or if we only get five candidates? Do we even bother with an election? Seems like it would be a bit of a sham.
* If fewer than 5 candidates stand for election, the 3 with the most votes are elected to the council.
* If there are fewer than 3 candidates when the nominations close, the election cannot be held.

More here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Coun...ection_process
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Is there a list (other than following the maemo mailing list) of nominations thus far?
 
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Gee, I wonder why nobody wants to run
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nobody cares.

the whole thing is now a sham.

i vote for an independent "internet tablet" forum - you know, like we used to have
 

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Is there a list (other than following the maemo mailing list) of nominations thus far?
No, the Maemo-community mailing list is the place for nominations, however I think the candidates should also show their interest here at Talk, but that's up to them.
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Andrea Grandi has also nominated himself. He's the third candidate to stand, after Texrat and Andrew F. Black.

Hello,

my name is Andrea Grandi, from Italy. Most of you probably already
know me, but I'll introduce myself for people who joined later.

I'm a computer science student at Università degli Studi di Firenze
and I've worked in the past as software developer for some companies.
I also lead the Linux user group of my city (PtLUG), and for this
reason my programming interests are directed to opensource
development.
Working for PtLUG I've also gained a lot of experience about how to
relate to a community and how to organize events.

Past and present in Maemo Community

I joined the Maemo Community since the first Maemo device was out
(Nokia 770) and I've been always so excited for being able to
contribute to this project.
In the past I've attended at both Maemo Summit doing a short talk.
During last summer I collaborated with PyMaemo team during a stage at
Igalia and at the moment I'm developing a couple of applications using
Python and Qt.

Areas where I could help in the council

In the Maemo Council I could help mainly for two things. First of all
I could help for the organization of the events. Finding a strategic
place to organize an event and selecting interesting contents to
attract more people is not an easy task. I think that there are still
some areas where we can work better to give to the Community a better
Summit.
Being a developer too I think I could help improving tools that Maemo
developers use. For example a lot of work could be done to improve the
Maemo Garage (did you notice that main Maemo project have their code
in Gitorius, mailing list on Maemo Garage, website on another hosting
service ecc...... ?!).

What I would like to do in the Council

- Maemo(MeeGo) Summit organization: as I already said, there are some
areas that we could improve and I'm going to work in this direction.
- Promoting developers contests: a nice way to attract developers is
challenging them. We could organize a contest and I'm sure that a lot
of interesting applications could be created by community.
- Improving the "getting started" part of all areas: I've noticed that
for a new developers or users has never been easy to find where to
start from. I think that a lot could be done to improve this.

Of course I've also other ideas for the Community, but first of all
let's see how this Maemo+Moblin fusion will evolve. We are no more
just "Maemo" now, we are a larger community so I think it's better to
start as soon as possible working together to create the best
community ever

Regards,

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