Originally Posted by qole

First lcuk, then YoDude:



lcuk, one of the things that I'm proud to have been a part of as a member of the past two councils was helping Stskeeps get a job with maemo.org (as "distmaster") to do the very thing you're saying needs to be done. He is pushing a queue of closed components through the "request for opening" process for us now. Honestly, most of the stuff that they want to open is beyond my depth, but I just know that more open is better, because it seems to me that many times when Nokia opens something, some genius hacker steps in and does magical things with it.

This was a big deal to me during my two terms. I hope at least one person on the next council sets this as a priority.



Another thing that I greatly desired to accomplish (and mostly failed to do) during my terms on Council was to make the "engaged users" segment of this community a more important part of the community's "core". It always frustrated me that the decision makers often chose to marginalise the forum users because they were too many, too unruly, too... unmanagable. By doing the important business on the mailing lists and IRC instead of the forums, it kept the noise down, but at the expense of losing a huge pool of resources.

I signed up for the community mailing list in order to nominate myself last spring. I subsequently signed up to the developer list in order to be able to watch the traffic there as part of my job as council member. It is probably worth the while of anyone who would like to participate in the decision-making processes of maemo.org (while it lasts) to subscribe to the mailing lists, too.

And yes, YoDude, I think you should head on over and nominate yourself. I'll vote for you if you stand as a rep for "engaged users" and you promise to pick up the torch of keeping the forums under the gaze of the decision makers in this community and the one that is forming over at meego.com.

...for having a relative newcomer or two on the council as a way of drawing new people into the thick of things

Originally Posted by YoDude

If you are not running this term then I will... in order to, as you said:

"stand as a rep for "engaged users" and you promise to pick up the torch of keeping the forums under the gaze of the decision makers in this community and the one that is forming over at meego.com"

Originally Posted by Texrat

Hey javispedro I see you reading-- why don't YOU run?

Originally Posted by javispedro

To be honest, I've been pondering exactly that while reading the thread (imagine my face when I got to read your post ).

But the fact that most nominees that don't run do so because of time concerns scares me :P
Also, my knowledge of the council internals is flaky at best -- not exactly a "trusted wise head who can guide us through some stormy waters", in revd's words.

Originally Posted by javispedro

To be honest, I've been pondering exactly that while reading the thread (imagine my face when I got to read your post ).

But the fact that most nominees that don't run do so because of time concerns scares me :P
Also, my knowledge of the council internals is flaky at best -- I'm not exactly a "trusted wise head who can guide us through some stormy waters", in revd's words.

Originally Posted by qole

... make the "engaged users" segment of this community a more important part of the community's "core". It always frustrated me that the decision makers often chose to marginalise the forum users because they were too many, too unruly, too... unmanagable. By doing the important business on the mailing lists and IRC instead of the forums, it kept the noise down, but at the expense of losing a huge pool of resources.

I signed up for the community mailing list in order to nominate myself last spring. I subsequently signed up to the developer list in order to be able to watch the traffic there as part of my job as council member. It is probably worth the while of anyone who would like to participate in the decision-making processes of maemo.org (while it lasts) to subscribe to the mailing lists, too.

And yes, YoDude, I think you should head on over and nominate yourself. I'll vote for you if you stand as a rep for "engaged users" and you promise to pick up the torch of keeping the forums under the gaze of the decision makers in this community and the one that is forming over at meego.com.

Mar 14, 2010; 10:55am Council Nomination: YoDude

I have recently joined this list and I am posting today in order to nominate myself for election to the Maemo Community Council.

I am not an active Maemo or MeeGo developer. The N900 is the first Nokia "phone" I have ever owned.

I have however, used an N800, N810, or an N900 as my mobile Internet connection in and outside work and home every day for over 3 years now. Prior to that my need for internet access via cell phone connection had me using whatever hardware was available. At that time it was an iPAQ 4200 series running Windows Mobile 2003. This solution left a lot to be desired.

With the release of the NIT's I felt that Nokia accurately realized the concept I was working with. I have been a power user ever since and believe I will continue to be one as this concept continues to evolve with MeeGo.

I do have a blog that I have maintained since 2005. I do not advertise this on the forums because the purpose of this blog is to support my posts in various mobile forums and not the other way around. I only mention it here for those who do not know me and would like some sort of reference from which to evaluate my sincerity

My first NIT blog post was in March of 2007
>> http://my.opera.com/yodude/blog/2007...the-nokia-n800

I believe that the Community Council we elect should have some representation from the average customer/user base. I also believe that the forums are, and will continue to be the communication means of choice for many engaged users. I also believe that some of the future leaders of our community will come from within the ranks of these engaged users.

Recently a current member of the Maemo Community Council posted that it was his desire during his term:
"...to make the "engaged users" segment of this community a more important part of the community's "core". It always frustrated me that the decision makers often chose to marginalize the forum users because they were too many, too unruly, too... unmanageable. By doing the important business on the mailing lists and IRC instead of the forums, it kept the noise down, but at the expense of losing a huge pool of resources."

I wholeheartedly agree with his statement and as a prospective Maemo Community Council candidate I will stand as a rep for "engaged users" and promise to pick up the torch that this Maemo Community Council member lit to keep the forums under the gaze of the decision makers in this community as well as the community that is forming over at meego.com.

>> http://talk.maemo.orgn/showpost.php?...6&postcount=38

Future MeeGo devices will rest on a community platform supported by three legs. The legs represent the software developers, the hardware manufacturers, and the eventual customer/users of those devices. Although the three legged stool analogy may be a bit tired, in this case it may be accurate none the less. If one of those legs is either longer or shorter than the other two or worse, each leg is of a different length, the platform is unstable and the devices resting on it will not be presented at their level best.

Thank you for your considerations and for the time taken while reading this rather long first post.

With best regards,

Steven Paolini Yeager
maemo.org member: YoDude

Originally Posted by YoDude

It has been said before that perhaps the community mailing list is the best kept secret of the community. If there are more active members on the forum then maybe we should be looking at being less mailing list dependent and more forum oriented.

Originally Posted by qole

Another thing that I greatly desired to accomplish (and mostly failed to do) during my terms on Council was to make the "engaged users" segment of this community a more important part of the community's "core". It always frustrated me that the decision makers often chose to marginalise the forum users because they were too many, too unruly, too... unmanagable. By doing the important business on the mailing lists and IRC instead of the forums, it kept the noise down, but at the expense of losing a huge pool of resources.

I signed up for the community mailing list in order to nominate myself last spring. I subsequently signed up to the developer list in order to be able to watch the traffic there as part of my job as council member. It is probably worth the while of anyone who would like to participate in the decision-making processes of maemo.org (while it lasts) to subscribe to the mailing lists, too.