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Originally Posted by YoDude View Post
Why? Is this a new requirement for a nomination?

...I didn't see this as a requirement for nomination until I just saw this post....
Just do what Jaffa says.
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#62
Originally Posted by lemmyslender View Post
I look forward to reading the Q&A here on tmo, at least I hope to. It sounds as though they are very interesting.
Good idea, and you're right, we should all be doing this. My responses below (bolded for clarity):

Thanks for the opportunity to express my thoughts on some subjects Andrew. Responses below:


> ----- Original message -----
> From: "Andrew Flegg‎" <andrew@bleb.org>
> To: "List for community development‎" <maemo-community@maemo.org>
> Subject: Re: Council nomination: me again
> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 15:23:22 +0000
>
>
>On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 18:48, Randall Arnold <texrat@ovi.com> wrote:
> >
> > As noted earlier, I intend to run again (see below)
>
> Thanks Randall. I've a few questions for the candidates, your answers
> would be appreciated:
>
>
> Sprint process
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> This is the main organised point of contact between Nokia, the paid
> contributors and the community, however the maemo.org sprint process
> is quite heavy for volunteers and it often seems to be a checklist
> affair; rather than a collaborative planning exercise.
>
> 1) Do you see any flaws in it, and how do you think it can be improved?

Actually I've been very impressed so far. The main hurdle is the global aspect of this community and stakeholders try very hard to participate.

That said, I think the process could be modified to better recognize the global nature. Rather than a single meeting time that benefits a select number of timezones, I'd rather see a 24-hour sort of format. There would be a kick-off that draws in everyone who can participate at that time, and then the meeting would be left open for 24 hours in order for others to come in. Like an IRC session, participants would come in and out and respond to comments and update action items. Perhaps it might even be better to make it 48 hours.

I'm sure we could find a meeting tool that supports this, or even develop one if not. I would be glad to work on it.

Like Stskeeps, I would prefer a true online project management tool for action items though rather than a simple wiki.

>
> 2) What are your thoughts on ongoing communication during the sprint?
>

It's a little spotty, and I accept responsibility for my own gaps there. I think if we adopt the method above it will go a long way toward improving the communication. Right now it feels like sprint pops up, attracts a brief burst of activity, then fizzles until the next meeting. We need more of an ongoing process, and for that we need a facilitator who owns the process.

>
> MeeGo
> ~~~~~
> MeeGo is, IMHO, the single biggest thing to happen to Maemo since the
> 770. In many ways, it's the opening up of the design processes that
> many of us have wanted in Maemo for so long. As Maemo as an operating
> system disappears, this will have a big effect on the community.
>
> 3) As we move from "day zero" to "day one", what do you think the
> priorities for the MeeGo community should be?
>

Infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure-- and more public dialog around it. The sooner the better.

I believe that Nokia and Intel should also jointly sponsor a 2- or 3-day physical strategy session ASAP for community leaders on both sides. As in NOW.

> 4) Should leaders in the MeeGo community (whether from a Moblin or
> Maemo background) try to move the existing communities with them to
> form the MeeGo community; or should a new community form around the
> operating system and its devices?
>

Brand new start, for the following reasons:

- Psychological aspect: a new community reflects a renewed and changed venture, and it puts Maemo and Mobiln members on equal footing.

- Practical aspect: There are numerous inactive maemo.org members and legacy entanglements (and FUD) better left at maemo.org for future reference only.

I hope we can all put past prejudices behind us as we build MeeGo from the ground up.

> 4a) If yes, what steps should be taken to prevent overreactions and
> allegations of "take over" that happened when internettablettalk.com's
> theme changed to match the rest of maemo.org?
>
> 4b) If no, how do you see the relationship between the Maemo community
> which has been "left behind" and the MeeGo community? How does the
> Maemo community stay vibrant if large portions on moving on to Maemo's
> successor, or drifting away to other mobile platforms?
>

I think this is a pure perception issue and as crude as it may seem to say, anyone who still feels that way after the facts are out may be inclined to feel "left behind" in some capacity no matter what. But I think that community leaders and plan executors need to be receptive toward concerns of abandonment and hear frustrated members out. I have had my own feelings like this so I can be empathetic but at the same time I try to temper that with optimism.

> 5) What are your thoughts about existing maemo.org resources (such as
> Extras, auto-builder, Bugzilla) as Nokia, and the paid contributors,
> look to the future?
>

I think there are a great many valuable lessons learned and skills here that can only help build a stronger future for this venture. Nokia has assembled a wonderful team of paid participants who in turn are supported by a passionate crowd of active volunteers.

Specifically, I would like to see us look more and more to other best practices. I would like to look into replicating Nokia's Pilots Bugzilla structure for use with our own, for instance. I also want to see more "hooks" built into the ecosystem for user participation and to that end I am putting together the following proposal (input welcome): http://maemo-daemons.org/MeeGo_User_Experience_Framework.pdf

>
> Community
> ~~~~~~~~~
>
> 6) How can we encourage more, and higher quality, applications for
> Maemo - and specifically through Extras?
>

We really need to listen to the community and wrap a more formal process around testing. There is no other solution. Thankfully, that effort is under way and kudos to people like Attila77 and VDVsx (et al) for taking a lead here.

My user framework proposal supports this as well.

>
> Thanks for your time in answering these questions. Your answers are
> much appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andrew
Also, my recent blog article on the election (with, sadly, no comments from readers):

http://tabulacrypticum.wordpress.com...n-spring-2010/
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#63
When the election starts, it would be good to have a page linked in the ballot where voters could find links to the profile's candidates and their answers to Jaffa's questions.

In the last elections you had to rely a lot on your current personal knowledge and opinions about the candidates. This leads more to a popularity contest where less known contributors pay a price even if they have all chances to become great council members.

Also, topics like the strategy towards MeeGo have a higher "political" component and I guess all voters will like to know candidate's opinions. If we aim to have high participation then it is fair to assume that most potential voters are not reading the answers from the candidates posted at maemo-community and linked here.
 

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#64
I would urge all prospective maemo.org council candidates (and any other interested persons, including current council members) to register for the 4th Annual Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit, to be held 14 April to 16 April in San Francisco, California. Note that Ari Jaaksi will be giving a keynote on MeeGo. Nokia and Intel are both key sponors.

Please be aware that there is no guarantee at this time of any sort of sponsorship for travel or hotel stay. I am hoping that can be secured for the newly-elected council but no promises at this time.

Information here: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/ev...oration-summit

This is invitation-only so be sure to start the process now just in case. If it turns out you register but cannot make it, please cancel your reservation as soon as you know since seating is limited and filling up.

(I will post this to the maemo-community email list also)
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#65
Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
I would urge all prospective maemo.org council candidates (and any other interested persons) to register for the 4th Annual Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit, to be held 14 April to 16 April in San Francisco, California. Note that Ari Jaaksi will be giving a keynote on MeeGo. Nokia and Intel are both key sponors.

Please be aware that there is no guarantee at this time of any sort of sponsorship for travel or hotel stay. I am hoping that can be secured for the newly-elected council but no promises at this time.

Information here: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/ev...oration-summit

This is invitation-only so be sure to start the process now just in case. If it turns out you register but cannot make it, please cancel your reservation as soon as you know since seating is limited and filling up.

(I will post this to the maemo-community email list also)
registered, debends on sponsoring. Thanks for pointing that out.
I've also nominated myself after some nice hints (thanks). Currently waiting for Jaffa's questions...
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@zehjotkah, don't wait, just answer them on the maemo-community@maemo.org list (they are the same for all candidates)
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@zehjotkah, don't wait, just answer them on the maemo-community@maemo.org list (they are the same for all candidates)
thanks, found them now, too. X.x
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Why? Is this a new requirement for a nomination?

I was spending my Sunday preparing my answers as courtesy to you and because I thought they were well thought out qualifiers for any candidate. I didn't see this as a requirement for nomination until I just saw this post. What is the significance of the winking emoticon at the end of your above, quoted post?
The significance of the smiley was to indicate that this was said in jest, that it was a joke: javispedro had been nominated (by your goodself) and so I posited he may have been delaying accepting the nomination until he thought he had good answers.

Because of this old schooling I believe it is rude to other viewers of this thread not to post the questions that we keep referring to.
However they are your questions and you posted them to a mailing list that not all members belong to. This old schooling in me reminds me that it would also be rude of me to post your content here because of that.
As Quim said, the answers should be collated. In previous elections the candidates maintained a wiki page outlining their positions and details; this is something I'd like to see again. And there's no issue with candidates posting their answers anywhere they want - it's public content; I'm not only trying to educate the people subscribed to the mailing list!
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Further to Reggie's nomination, I've decided to throw my own hat into the ring.

Thank you to the answers to the questions from the other candidates - these have helped inform my decision: both where I disagree (I think I can add value) and where I agree (I can see people I could work with).

My full acceptance is in the thread. The main point is that the last six months, having stepped back from the council, have given me a new perspective. The biggest issue I've seen is one of communication and clear facilitation. We need to reduce the overhead and streamline community action. Therefore, if elected, I will push for:
  • A clear cooperation with the growing MeeGo community through MeeGo's Community Working Group and develop a transition plan to ensure the level of collaboration the council has with Nokia isn't lost in the new world.
  • A Moblin/Maemo/MeeGo summit which looks to the present as well as to the future.
  • Appropriate support and resources for existing device owners as Nokia transition to MeeGo. Exactly what form this will take will depend on whether running MeeGo is a day-to-day reality for N8x0 and N900 users:
    1. If MeeGo provides a comparable experience, without any loss of functionality, the resources around Maemo can be slowly redirected.
    2. However, if MeeGo for existing devices is - at best - of developer interest only, the existing Maemo community must continue, and must continue to provide support, help and resources to Maemo users.
    Carsten Munk's Mer^2 should help with the final point, and I'm proud to have been on the council which approached Nokia requesting a distmaster role; and suggesting that Carsten (Stskeeps) was the right man for the job.
  • Increasing the visibility of the maemo.org sprint process and reducing the burden on volunteers. Niels Breet (X-Fade) being made the maemo.org team leader will help here. Having been involved in the running of an agile project for over 2 years, I believe:
    • Niels should chair the sprint meeting.
    • The meeting participants should be responsible for setting their priorities and what will be included.
    • Input should be provided by Nokia (Tero Kojo) and the community (the Council chair) on their issues and priorities before the meeting which should be taken into account within the prioritisation.
    This will reduce the workload for the volunteers on the council, increase the ownership of the tasks and provide greater accountability of the paid contributors.
  • A summary table listing the high-level issues facing the community and who on the council will act as a point of contact for them. An example for the current council could be:
    Code:
           Extras QA process         VDVsx
       Optification              gcobb
       Community outreach        Texrat
  • Support for Randall's community outreach programme, which is trying to grow the Maemo community rather than just the Maemo platform. With the launch of the Ovi store for Maemo, much focus is given to that rather than the community provisions such as Extras.
  • Empowering of community members to lead initiatives such as Google Summer of Code, conference attendance etc.
  • A monetisation/donation framework for community-provided downloads.

Hopefully the above also answers the questions I was asking the other candidates, whilst debating whether or not to run. If not, or if you have any other questions, please don't hesitate to ask me.
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registered, debends on sponsoring. Thanks for pointing that out.
I've also nominated myself after some nice hints (thanks). Currently waiting for Jaffa's questions...
Note that if accepted, you will receive an invitation after registering (seems odd, I know, just accept).

Hope to see you there... one way or another!
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