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2010-03-24 , 06:00
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There've been some complaints about the recent rampant disregard for the one rule this forum has. I don't have the time or interest to babysit the little ones showing up, so let's treat everyone as a major... let it be known that violators i do discover may find themselves banned with no warning.

So, announcing a new game for the N900 kiddies: TMO roulette.

Ask yourself this "Am i feeling lucky?"

Unlucky people:
Daywalker (One week ban)
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Originally Posted by Flandry View Post
There've been some complaints about the recent rampant disregard for the one rule this forum has. I don't have the time or interest to babysit the little ones showing up, so let's treat everyone as a major... let it be known that violators i do discover may find themselves banned with no warning.

So, announcing a new game for the N900 kiddies: TMO roulette.

Ask yourself this "Am i feeling lucky?"
As much as this thread's seriousness.. the last thing you said made me smile!

All seriousness now though, lots of users gotta start following the rules.. They're basic and easy to follow!!

But it sucks for me.. I am pretty an unlucky person...
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As much as this thread's seriousness.. the last thing you said made me smile!

All seriousness now though, lots of users gotta start following the rules.. They're basic and easy to follow!!
I totally agree.

Maybe we should just shoot the next stupid person here based on general principle and see how the others react.
 
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There've been some complaints about the recent rampant disregard for the one rule this forum has. I don't
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Ask yourself this "Am i feeling lucky?"
As much as I appreciate someone willing to take action on this. I would as a new user appreciate a sticky somewhere listing the forum rules comprehensively and probably a penalty system that goes along with it.


Something like this in fact.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=40160

I suppose banning users straight away with no explanation isn't a very helpful solution. Sure it'll be fun but it wont count as an improvement.

An example of another forum(not 110% relevant though) that I'm a part of has all these rules clearly listed which helps. The associated penalties that go with flouting the rules helps even more.

@flandry
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/announ...on-system.html
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/announ...etiquette.html

Yes I do think the above forum is a little less tolerant than it should be at times. But I'm sure something in between, suitable to T.M.O can be cooked up

PS: I also think we desperately need more moderators to handle the increased user load.
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Originally Posted by un-named_user View Post
As much as I appreciate someone willing to take action on this. I would as a new user appreciate a sticky somewhere listing the forum rules comprehensively and probably a penalty system that goes along with it.


Something like this in fact.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=40160

I suppose banning users straight away with no explanation isn't a very helpful solution. Sure it'll be fun but it wont count as an improvement.

An example of another forum(not 110% relevant though) that I'm a part of has all these rules clearly listed which helps. The associated penalties that go with flouting the rules helps even more.

@flandry
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/announ...on-system.html
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/announ...etiquette.html

Yes I do think the above forum is a little less tolerant than it should be at times. But I'm sure something in between, suitable to T.M.O can be cooked up

PS: I also think we desperately need more moderators to handle the increased user load.
I would apply to be one but I have no idea where to do that here.. I am on this website at least 4 times a day! and I have forum experience whether it's IPB (that's what I use for my site) or vBulletin (which this site uses)..

Maybe I have to try to contact Reggie?? hmmm.
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2010-03-24 , 22:50
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Don't do it kids. It's not worth it.
 
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As much as I appreciate someone willing to take action on this. I would as a new user appreciate a sticky somewhere listing the forum rules comprehensively and probably a penalty system that goes along with it.
There's really only one official rule in Games and that is indeed listed in a sticky thread (yes the one that's only been viewed
1,266 times since January; compare it with week-old threads with 10x the hits). It's a common sense rule, such that violation thereof is generally either an act of stupidity or naivety. And as is usually the case with common sense rules, those who most need to read them aren't going to and perhaps don't care.

So what's a moderator to do when much of the traffic is by spoiled adolescents, many of whom appear to be only partially literate?

Well, on the one hand it fortunately wouldn't be much of a loss to the community if they were banned; however, it needn't end in carnage: if you see someone breaking the rule, feel free to send them a message reminding them of the rule and suggesting they edit their post. That way everybody is happy and nobody has to get gruesomely killed.

If you're not that nice, you can still help out by reporting offending posts so that they can be dealt with.
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Accelemymote: make your accelerometer more joy-ful
 
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Originally Posted by Flandry View Post
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Well, on the one hand it fortunately wouldn't be much of a loss to the community if they were banned; however, it needn't end in carnage: if you see someone breaking the rule, feel free to send them a message reminding them of the rule and suggesting they edit their post. That way everybody is happy and nobody has to get gruesomely killed.

If you're not that nice, you can still help out by reporting offending posts so that they can be dealt with.
As much as i would appreciate the noise reduction that'll come with this. I wouldnt want the moderation attitude to go down this path.

Yes the type of users now coming to this community is way different than what was before. Some for the better and some definitely for the worse.

Not everyone can be helped, but yeah I think some can be.

I do what I can in the limited time I have. But I am sure I can find more places to help.

But we seriously need to not get worked up so quickly.. for every little reason.

This is a good start i think.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=48200
 
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2010-03-27 , 17:38
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i broke the rule when i first joined, and a mod inboxed me to let me know. thats how it should be. remember, alot of users have come from other forums with different rules. you cant just go round baning people left right and center and naming and shaming them! thats not in your unpaid job description lol
 
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i broke the rule when i first joined, and a mod inboxed me to let me know. thats how it should be. remember, alot of users have come from other forums with different rules. you cant just go round baning people left right and center and naming and shaming them!
Well, i could...

It's not going to become a habit. One individual was especially "unlucky" in picking a time to come on and make his second post a brag about pirating a product released commercially to the community and extolling that behavior as a way of sticking it to Nokia for their Ovi failures, missing completely the fact that it's a third party being hurt by both Ovi and their theft. That's just not cool.

thats not in your unpaid job description lol
Hmm. Where is that, anyway?

Look, there's a rule and there is a community, and we're all responsible for the conduct. Anyone has the ability to warn others and see that the rules are known.

There are however certain things an average community member doesn't have power to do. When people come to me to complain about disregard for the rules, it's because the normal means available to all are failing, so i will employ the tools given me to remedy the cases.
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