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For the people using Qtirreco and their device isnt supported i remember i found some working remotes in the letter U at universal... I was probably lucky, but you can try it too. I think i used sth like SupportPlus... Cant tell more because i reflashed and i havent installed it again...
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Originally Posted by Fargus
legacy, outdated, ... sound the same to me. I don't understand why they'd spend the $ for the IR hole (even though I very much like it I cannot really justify it), and I understand even less why they'd put the hole and not the sensor.
The IR emitter is to allow the N900 to control legacy items, not to provide a seriously outdated protocol
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Originally Posted by qwazix
So no simcard, pop port then? IrDA is a dead standard. There is more to providing IrDA than just a receiver. There is also the daemon, power drain etceteras. All this for novelty and something that has been replaced years ago by the integrated Bluetooth. Maybe we should expect Latin spell checker too as the letters are present on the keyboard?
why does everyone underestimate the value of compatibility? Ok irDA is old and dated but still some recent cheap nokia phones have irDA, and it is the only means to transfer the contacts etc. from them.
Recently sb wanted to transfer his data from his 2 year old nokia to the new one. The old had only IR the newer only BT. No way to do it until my N95 came to the rescue.
I wouldn't complain if a new phone lacked IR, ok I understand, any additional hardware is expensive adds to size and weight. But once the N900 has the port why can't it be a tranceiver?
Also having a feature for developers only is like not having a feature to most of the people. Imagine if you bought a laptop with a webcam but no drivers for it. It will appeal to some users (most of us on this forum) but there are lots of people who own a N900 but do not have either the knowledge, the time, or the will to drill down and search for applications to enable each hidden feature they paid for on their device.
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2010-03-28
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That is an argument I must say. I think latin is dead a little longer than irDA though. No simcard? what backword compatibility would that serve? Pop-port was never a standard.
We do have 802.11b though, even if it's dead. We do use FAT32.
Nokia phones never had a daemon for IR, you had to fire it up to start receiving.
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We do have 802.11b though, even if it's dead. We do use FAT32.
Nokia phones never had a daemon for IR, you had to fire it up to start receiving.
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2010-03-28
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Ok, it's not the end of the world.
There are online databases of IR commands for various remote controls (remotecentral.com, pronto ccf database, etc) that we can make use of.
We just need to translate/convert those formats into something that is useable by the remote app on N900.
There are online databases of IR commands for various remote controls (remotecentral.com, pronto ccf database, etc) that we can make use of.
We just need to translate/convert those formats into something that is useable by the remote app on N900.
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2010-03-28
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Originally Posted by Fargus
lol nice point. i like having ir transmit, its cool, and anything i have to receive via ir is probably going to be available faster and better via other means (that said a bus stop once ir'd me a voucher for 10% off at next, i never used it but thought it was damn cool too!)
Using the speakers and mic to pass information as morse audio would have been cheap too: pointless in the current age but cheap.
The IR emitter is to allow the N900 to control legacy items, not to provide a seriously outdated protocol
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Originally Posted by qwazix
You could copy the contacts to the sim card nd move them across that way.
That is an argument I must say. I think latin is dead a little longer than irDA though. No simcard? what backword compatibility would that serve? Pop-port was never a standard.
We do have 802.11b though, even if it's dead. We do use FAT32.
Nokia phones never had a daemon for IR, you had to fire it up to start receiving.
Pop-port was the standard for quite some time with Nokianes. It was hoped that it would be the only port that they would need in future.
802.11b is still a live standard and a version of the same technology, bluetooth was a direct replacement for IrDA functionality. FAT32 is a current standard largely due to Mass Storage devices and Microsoft.
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2010-03-28
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Originally Posted by Fargus
1. He had more than 200 contacts, they cant fit on the sim-card. You can not do it two times because you don't know which ones get copied, and there is no mass deletion on older S40's
You could copy the contacts to the sim card nd move them across that way.
Pop-port was the standard for quite some time with Nokianes. It was hoped that it would be the only port that they would need in future.
802.11b is still a live standard and a version of the same technology, bluetooth was a direct replacement for IrDA functionality. FAT32 is a current standard largely due to Mass Storage devices and Microsoft.
2. More than one phone per contact cannot fit on the sim card
3. Greek character names get truncated to about 6-7 chars on sim cards, short enough to lose all the important info
I think we have a different conception of what a live standard is
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even at the pop-port ages, half nokia phones did have other type of ports (or didn't have a port at all). Anyway pop-port does provide backward compatibility only with your usb cable. IR provides communication with a variety of older devices as well as the possibility to really exploit the transmitting function (record new remotes on the fly)
Anyway, if it is not for communication why is that port even there? Controlling your tv isn't probably what the developers were thinking, it's to awkward to point that side of the device to the TV and the range is too short.
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Last edited by qwazix; 2011-08-21 at 10:30.
Anyway, if it is not for communication why is that port even there? Controlling your tv isn't probably what the developers were thinking, it's to awkward to point that side of the device to the TV and the range is too short.
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Last edited by qwazix; 2011-08-21 at 10:30.
Recently sb wanted to transfer his data from his 2 year old nokia to the new one. The old had only IR the newer only BT. No way to do it until my N95 came to the rescue.
I wouldn't complain if a new phone lacked IR, ok I understand, any additional hardware is expensive adds to size and weight. But once the N900 has the port why can't it be a tranceiver?
Also having a feature for developers only is like not having a feature to most of the people. Imagine if you bought a laptop with a webcam but no drivers for it. It will appeal to some users (most of us on this forum) but there are lots of people who own a N900 but do not have either the knowledge, the time, or the will to drill down and search for applications to enable each hidden feature they paid for on their device.
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