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2010-03-31 , 08:16
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#81
Rushmore, I agree that there are a lot of things in this phone that people are surprised to not see, including portrait SMS.

On the other hand, back at when we speculated if it'd be a phone or not, I for one thought that Maemo 4 didn't bode well for a phone OS. With no phone functionality, no PIM, no anything that might make it an overlapping product with existing Nokia phones. I think for a "first phone", they did okay. There were lots of phone centric things that had to be designed from scratch. Which they do not have to do with Symbian phones.

So, I believe there are a lot of unrealistic expectations plus I am surprised they marketed it like they did - a "superphone". It was bound to create discontent. This is, for all purposes, a product directly comparable with the "Google Developer Phone"... In my opinion. You didn't see many end users running around with the first Android phone, and that was probably a wise marketing decision until they had it more ready for mass market.

Nokia jumped into it with the N900.
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2010-03-31 , 10:46
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#82
Originally Posted by maurelio79 View Post
portrait SMS could be so difficult? Maybe couple of hours of work?
"Couple of hours work" haha! I'd like portrait SMS too, but it would take longer than that, I'm sure.
 

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2010-03-31 , 11:04
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Originally Posted by volt View Post
Rushmore, I agree that there are a lot of things in this phone that people are surprised to not see, including portrait SMS.

On the other hand, back at when we speculated if it'd be a phone or not, I for one thought that Maemo 4 didn't bode well for a phone OS. With no phone functionality, no PIM, no anything that might make it an overlapping product with existing Nokia phones. I think for a "first phone", they did okay. There were lots of phone centric things that had to be designed from scratch. Which they do not have to do with Symbian phones.

So, I believe there are a lot of unrealistic expectations plus I am surprised they marketed it like they did - a "superphone". It was bound to create discontent. This is, for all purposes, a product directly comparable with the "Google Developer Phone"... In my opinion. You didn't see many end users running around with the first Android phone, and that was probably a wise marketing decision until they had it more ready for mass market.

Nokia jumped into it with the N900.
Agreed! N900 is a great electronic Swiss knife, but not a smartphone (at least not at the expected level of functionality).
 

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2010-03-31 , 15:09
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Originally Posted by pelago View Post
"Couple of hours work" haha! I'd like portrait SMS too, but it would take longer than that, I'm sure.
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=136

Ok, maybe not 2 hours... on day? a couple of day? I mean it's so impossible to do? I can not belive it....
 

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2010-03-31 , 16:21
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Originally Posted by maurelio79 View Post
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=136

Ok, maybe not 2 hours... on day? a couple of day? I mean it's so impossible to do? I can not belive it....
What you don't realise is that you don't just code something, check it on your friend's device and release. There are issues with the UI that must be tested ( localisation, built-in themes, consistency, font sizes, et.c.), issues with the firmware upgrades and existing messages, issues with functionality itself so on and so forth. I could probably come up with a substantial set of tests even without knowing the internals

QA work is not test a few times and throw out to the wild.
 

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2010-03-31 , 17:07
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#86
I know... i'm totaly agree with you, buuuut and again... is it impossible? i understand that there are more important things: but like we had portrait browser a little buggy for some months, we can also have portrait SMS a little buggy for some months and with our feedback help nokia to improve, am i wrong?

I do not understand problem with existing messages, it is only a gui: i'm speaking about rotate a window and rearrange the content.
 
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2010-03-31 , 17:11
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Originally Posted by maurelio79 View Post
I know... i'm totaly agree with you, buuuut and again... is it impossible? i understand that there are more important things: but like we had portrait browser a little buggy for some months, we can also have portrait SMS a little buggy for some months and with our feedback help nokia to improve, am i wrong?

I do not understand problem with existing messages, it is only a gui: i'm speaking about rotate a window and rearrange the content.
Even that must be tested in all applicable scenaria. Sounds simple but you'd be surprised how easily things can go haywire
 
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2010-03-31 , 20:24
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Originally Posted by maurelio79 View Post
i'm speaking about rotate a window and rearrange the content.
If you're just talking about wishing to read messages, then rearranging the window layout probably isn't too hard (although you'll probably also need menu actions to control the rotating), but I thought the major problem was the lack of portrait keyboard, which would certainly take more than a couple of hours.
 
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2010-03-31 , 20:31
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#89
for me that would be a nice step, to read the sms in portrait.
I come from the E90 and yes there we have both options
And i have to see that i did read my sms mostly in portrait mode on the front screen
But at the moment i wanted to reply i always switched to landscape and the internal big screen.
 
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for me that would be a nice step, to read the sms in portrait. the internal big screen.
Ohhhhh!! Thanks!!!
I'm speaking about this: first step could be only read messages in portrait (also this require years of testing??) and n900 people, i think, will be happy to test this feature, like we tested browser in portrait!

With a shortcut you enable portrait SMS and see what appens, give feedbackk, ecc...... where is the problem? After that, Nokia could say: "Ok, simple portrait visualitation works fine, let go to rearrange a portrait keyboard and ask to n900 people to test it!" and so on....

Ok, could not be an easy work to do, but if you never start it, you'll never get it!

Regards.
 
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