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2010-04-26
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#122
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Originally Posted by Endri
Sony also continued to dominate the home electronics market for about two decades after VHS won the video standard war.
Sony continued to produced betamax for a long time...
Anyway, thanks for not using a car analogy.
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2010-04-26
, 10:13
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@ London
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#123
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Originally Posted by low life
Wait, is there a qwerty slider model ? If so put me down for one. I am one of those 'nuts' that always buy Nokia and fortunately for Nokia, I am not alone. Admit it, they still make the best hardware both in durability and function. HTC Desire is ok but no TV-OUT, mono speakers, no keyboard ? really ?.
Yet his opinion was correct - he stated N900 wasn't nearly as good for mass markets as, say, the Droid/Milestone. I know it's the right device for me, but that just isn't the case for most people.
And yeah, S^3 is basically S60v5 with a little bit of polish.. I guess Nokia relies on people who've always bought Nokia to buy that one, because it's so much behind the competitors OS vice. The hardware is good though (and especially the qwerty slider model is really slick), so they'd have to promise the device(s) S^4 upgrade to attract buyers.
Software is liquid and can always change but not hardware and Symbian is most stable and functional of the lot in my opinion. Its a shame that the OS 'book' is now judged by its cover. I have read of improvements to Symbian: 64 bit fileserver, HDMI and multicore support, QT framework, J2ME VM etc. Its not as good looking as its peers but still the most fit for purpose (phone call management still matters). What did good looks ever do for WebOs ? Even the 'illustrous' iPhone OS had to copy s60 task manager. Anyway IMHO Symbian will remain number one and I dont see any moves by competitors that will change this view. Thanks.
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2010-04-26
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#124
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Originally Posted by Endri
C'mon Endri. I agree that S^3 doesn't look the best(nothing surprising here as S^3 foundation have released pictures and videos of it for months already), but it's highly themeable and with the totally new graphic engine it will be full of transition effects that people seem to like and be much smoother than S^1.
http://www.nokia.com/about-nokia/fin...mation/q1-2010
Those are nokia results so far.
Sony continued to produced betamax for a long time...
We will see the resultsd after this new phone...
It's again stopgap before fully Qt based OS's using application and UI framework versions(Symbian^4 and harmattan/MeeGo), but honestly it looks functional and will be worlds better to use than S^1 with multitouch, revamped multitasking, music player, single touch, much better homescreen and some changes to button placements.
Plus with a good hardware it seems.
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2010-04-26
, 10:40
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@ Espoo, Finland
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#125
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I think it is just funny how people are judging this phone and os by the looks of it and not about one's own impression. Murtazin was quite wrong about iphone os when it first came out and it isn't the first time he's been wrong. He can be wrong now.
I admit that symbian^3 doesn't look very compelling but things like great battery life (rumours about 4 days), good camera (is better than any android phone), speedy browser (I think it isn't going to be great) and good music player (we will see about that) are the key elements for this to be successful phone. Let's see.
Oh and I forgot that this will be first symbian phone with qt 4.6 application framework support so also a good thing for maemo community. I think we'll see couple of more apps
Last edited by bbin; 2010-04-26 at 10:58.
I admit that symbian^3 doesn't look very compelling but things like great battery life (rumours about 4 days), good camera (is better than any android phone), speedy browser (I think it isn't going to be great) and good music player (we will see about that) are the key elements for this to be successful phone. Let's see.
Oh and I forgot that this will be first symbian phone with qt 4.6 application framework support so also a good thing for maemo community. I think we'll see couple of more apps
Last edited by bbin; 2010-04-26 at 10:58.
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2010-04-26
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@ Israel
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#126
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Originally Posted by Endri
Uh! thanks! I asked what makes you think - no, DETERMINE - that symbian is a "dead platform", and you reply by linking to Nokia's profit charts.
http://www.nokia.com/about-nokia/fin...mation/q1-2010
Those are nokia results so far.
Sony continued to produced betamax for a long time...
We will see the resultsd after this new phone...
Thanks! I've never got such a precise answer in my life!
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2010-04-26
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@ Italy
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#127
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Originally Posted by efekt
Oh I see, the life and future of a platform is not based on how much this platform sells but on your opinion. Those are facts not ideas...
Uh! thanks! I asked what makes you think - no, DETERMINE - that symbian is a "dead platform", and you reply by linking to Nokia's profit charts.
Thanks! I've never got such a precise answer in my life!
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About Sony being top player on the video market after loosing format war, I agree... Sony dropped Beta for VHS and that is precisly my point, Nokia drop Symbian.
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2010-04-26
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@ Espoo, Finland
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#128
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Originally Posted by Endri
Nokia will not drop symbian. That would be a huge mistake if you think about qt. Going android (if that's what you are trying to say?) would not do any good for the huge investments and especially from our point of view for meego.
Oh I see, the life and future of a platform is not based on how much this platform sells but on your opinion. Those are facts not ideas...
About Sony being top player on the video market after loosing format war, I agree... Sony dropped Beta for VHS and that is precisly my point, Nokia drop Symbian.
Look at samsungs android phones for christs sake! They are horrible!
Last edited by bbin; 2010-04-26 at 11:03.
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2010-04-26
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@ Italy
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#129
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Originally Posted by bbin
No, I mybe exposed my ideas very poorly if you think that I am suggesting Andoird for nokia.
Nokia will not drop symbian. That would be a huge mistake if you think about qt. Going android (if that's what you are trying to say?) would not do any good for the huge investments and especially from our point of view for meego.
My point is that Nokia MUST use ONE Os and only ONE for all its device. Or at least for all smartphones, keeping Symbian for what it does better, stupidphones.
I am in no position of telling them to go for Android, webOS, Meego, Maemo or whatever the future holds, but logic suggeest that if Nokia endorses one OS the support, services, apps etc. would finally start getting decent and fast... and huge...
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2010-04-26
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@ Italy
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#130
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Look at samsungs android phones for christs sake! They are horrible![/QUOTE]
Actually 4inch superamoled galaxy S 1Ghz is reallt nice...
Actually 4inch superamoled galaxy S 1Ghz is reallt nice...
Those are nokia results so far.
Sony continued to produced betamax for a long time...
We will see the resultsd after this new phone...