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2010-04-26
, 22:44
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probably yes, and our phone calls are few times cheaper as well as the gas. The rest stuff is cheaper and better in Turkey, at least in Alanya-Kemer region. Good roads, good restaurants, good people etc. I have few friends there in Alanya and Mahmutlar and was few times there - your country is more ... kind of civilization to me. enjoy! ) I would even say you are in Europe, not we are.
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2010-04-26
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Where did you buy your N900 and from who? have you got a reciept ? how about you post a pic of your emei number on here so we can all see you are telling the truth.
The reason these laws are in place in your countries is simple, many many stolen phones end up in these markets so your govenments have made laws to stop the use of stolen equipment, IF your mobile is legitimate then you will have a genuine receipt for it giving you the right to register it free with your govenment.
In your last post you answered your own question ! "your system is better then us. We have about 2 weeks and only way to register is go to an authorized phone seller ( every city there is one seller who can register imei's )and register it. "
So why have you not done this?.
The reason these laws are in place in your countries is simple, many many stolen phones end up in these markets so your govenments have made laws to stop the use of stolen equipment, IF your mobile is legitimate then you will have a genuine receipt for it giving you the right to register it free with your govenment.
In your last post you answered your own question ! "your system is better then us. We have about 2 weeks and only way to register is go to an authorized phone seller ( every city there is one seller who can register imei's )and register it. "
So why have you not done this?.
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2010-04-26
, 22:47
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hey archimonde, what if a foreigner comes to the shop and says he need to stay long time in Turkey and he needs his cell? whould they add into white list? temporary or forever? is that an option for you (find any guy)?
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2010-04-26
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abill, most likely this phone was bought from hands, no reciepts. you live in other world... 
)) and but stuff only in shops and amazon, right?.. you do not understand the cultural difference between UK and UA... it's crazy
about stolen stuff. that doesnt solve the stolen phone issue since imei's are patchable and there is a 'service' to update the DB. It is controlled by police.
that system was created to deny unauthorized import so few guys can control the cell market. They would love to do the same with TV, Carmcorders etc, but there is no way. That's why they focus on just cells.
in such countries as his and my, this is not about our safity, this is about someone's money. and that's all
)) and but stuff only in shops and amazon, right?.. you do not understand the cultural difference between UK and UA... it's crazyabout stolen stuff. that doesnt solve the stolen phone issue since imei's are patchable and there is a 'service' to update the DB. It is controlled by police.
that system was created to deny unauthorized import so few guys can control the cell market. They would love to do the same with TV, Carmcorders etc, but there is no way. That's why they focus on just cells.
in such countries as his and my, this is not about our safity, this is about someone's money. and that's all
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2010-04-26
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Most modern phones have the IMEI burnt into a write once chip so the only way you can get round this is via software or buying certain older models of phone where the IMEI can be reprogrammed.
As the N900 is the only mass marketed mobile running this O/S, the chances of getting hold of software to spoof the IMEI is pretty slim at this time unless you plan on writing it yourself!
As the N900 is the only mass marketed mobile running this O/S, the chances of getting hold of software to spoof the IMEI is pretty slim at this time unless you plan on writing it yourself!
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2010-04-26
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Originally Posted by sebastian_ua96
This is utter rubbish because it DOES solve the issue about stolen mobiles thats why you cannot register it !.
abill, most likely this phone was bought from hands, no reciepts. you live in other world...
about stolen stuff. that doesnt solve the stolen phone issue since imei's are patchable and there is a 'service' to update the DB. It is controlled by police.
that system was created to deny unauthorized import so few guys can control the cell market. They would love to do the same with TV, Carmcorders etc, but there is no way. That's why they focus on just cells.
in such countries as his and my, this is not about our safity, this is about someone's money. and that's all
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2010-04-26
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okay, phisically the IMEI is stored in a CHIP (whatever it is).
a) API Blah() reads it
b) API Foo() sends it to the provider when doing GSP stuff
both a) and b) are low level software which is replacable by default. the only issue would be updating the firmware will need re-patch. I'd say this software already exists or will be created soon one Ukraine run this IMEI system it is still in testing.
a) API Blah() reads it
b) API Foo() sends it to the provider when doing GSP stuff
both a) and b) are low level software which is replacable by default. the only issue would be updating the firmware will need re-patch. I'd say this software already exists or will be created soon one Ukraine run this IMEI system it is still in testing.
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2010-04-26
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Originally Posted by abill_uk
FYI: Stolen mobile databases are pretty much useless, most countries dont share databases so all stolen stuff is shipped abroad where they work flawlessly.
This is utter rubbish because it DOES solve the issue about stolen mobiles thats why you cannot register it !.
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2010-04-26
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Originally Posted by telnet
Got nothing to do with a database its the gov's way of protection against stolen mobile equipment and thats why they cannot be registered, if it was a legitimate mobile there is always a way to get it registered and dont bring the lame excuse one mobile per year per person because you know the way around that without me saying anything.This is all about stolen mobiles and you guys have no choice but to try and change emei's, reason being is simple the emei IS the fingerprint of the phone and it will be blocked for sure if its stolen THAT database IS worldwide.
FYI: Stolen mobile databases are pretty much useless, most countries dont share databases so all stolen stuff is shipped abroad where they work flawlessly.
And yes, changing the IMEI for n900 is possible but not legal (at least you can patch the API that is sending the IMEI to provider). I would recommend to try other ways. One more way in post soviet union countries is to find folk who have access to the list. They should be able to add yours as well. It is not legal, but possible in Ukraine. Should be similar to what you got in Turkey.