I really dont care as long as they release PR 1.2 soon.

Meh...I never feel sorry for CEO's getting the boot. I'm sure the 7-8 digit "+" severance packages will help soften the blow of any gaps in employment.

Agreed, but the US is starting a boom in network infrastructure build out, based on the early stages of "smartphone" boom. The telco/data/hardware/networking market will see a dramatic boom "over here" as "we" move to more converged internet-access/communication devices.

Other than that, for US based news services, 99% of what goes on outside US borders is not covered at length. Sux having to watch DTM races "6 months" after the season ends.

I don't know about that. I think I'd be pretty mad if I was fired just before my major improvement initiatives were done, compensation or not.

Semantics. 20-7=13? Lost, dropped, removed, whatever. It is still the same. Why argue on a point like that?

No, it is an important distinction. Losing 13 points of share is not the equivalent of losing 13% of share, it is more like losing 65%...

Think of it this way: Nokia had 20% of overall share. Losing 13% of that part is miniscule. But what they actually lost was 13% of overall market share. That's significant.

And that is exactly why things are kept in wraps until released.

This guy did well on his GRE....

so did this guy...

What do you mean will Nokia lag behind? Nokia IS lagging behind and if you look through the window to you right you can see the scenery going forward.

Nokia used to be synonymous to quality, innovation, and the bleeding edge.

Nokia hasn't innovated anything in years. Some perfecting has been done, true, but mostly that, polishing old OSs, mixing this that we have with that that we have, things like that.

We've had Communicators for how many years? Get a keyboard and a wide screen, flip or slide, put our latest OS on it and it's easy living to paycheck. Cookie cutter phones. And they are getting progressively worse compared to the year they released.

Not the best phone. Not the best OS. Not the best app base. Not the best battery, not the best camera (Maybe N8). Nothing here is peak any more save for the price.

Nokia used to sell phones one full generation ahead of everyone for just a few bucks more. Everyone else was a joke. Giants fused together to take 10% off its market. When phones were 1-line of text, Nokia had graphical screens. When they had graphical, Nokia had color. When VGA cams popped up in other phones, Nokia was pushing 1.0, then 1.3 MPx. When they had buttons, Nokia implemented scrollers, then joysticks. 7110 had a middle scroll when mice had 3 buttons.

Now? Same screen as competition, save for few tweaks. Keyboard, few tweaks. USB. Camera (has 3 more FPS). Linux-based OS, like them. Battery. That's it. You look at competitors and at Nokia and frankly, prejudice aside, you have to really think it over. There is no net advantage.

Where is that next-generation company? They should be selling dual core Atom phones with Windows XP and Ubuntu. And with years of perfecting, Symbian should be a decent 3rd choice. Or a finished Maemo. You know, the kind of finished where you have a video call, MMS, conference call, video ringtones. And some apps. Nokia has no apps. A few that come with the OS and that's it. We have to figure it out ourselves. Sometimes without documentation.

Nokia still lives off it's age. The name still means something, they have a good Care Center coverage, and are still associated with good quality parts in this part of the world.

A company that has 8 of the 10 most sold phones in the world is actually getting a run for its money. If this isn't lagging behind I don't know what is.

I'm much better now.