Please... show me where he has a legitimate grievance? The op on this one posted that his main reason for selling was lack of MMS (not legitimate, the phone does MMS), and lack of apps. Considering he didn't look hard enough to find the repositories mentioned in the user documentation shipped with the phone, I'm calling that an illegitimate grievance too.

I've got no problem with people with legitimate greivances. If someone downs the phone and sells it because it doesn't have a decent GPS client (well, before Maemo Mapper and/or Sygic) then I understand that. If they down it for not having Exchange support for their corporate mailbox, that's legitimate. But if you're going to down it for something it already does, and does well? And continue to say the lies about it after you've been told it lots of other threads that that's just not true? No... You won't be tolerated.

Wah wah. Seriously dude, get a new tone.

You won't be tolerated... noob.

[edit]**** to answer your "question"... OP states a lack of apps. He's right.

No, the phone doesn't do MMS. fMMS does MMS. And it is not integrated because the phone bits are closed.

Let's see... there are a lack of apps. Let's start with... is there a wifi-file app like Air Sharing on the iPhone? Nope.

Is there a method to sync easily with the Mac (not that convoluted manner to do it). Nope.

Is there a compass? Is there a CNN app that allows for quick viewing of location specific video and news instead of having to pare down the entire website via the browser? Is there a tilt-shift photo editing app? What about a video editing app? What about a FCC broadband test app? Or an integrated Box.net app? Or perhaps a... you get my point. For each of the aforementioned apps, they exist on the web. But they don't all exist as an installed, location aware app. And that, from a consumer level is lacking. Deny that as you may, it's the stone cold truth that most consumers will not find compelling reasons to make the switch from Android or iPhone - but that's not what I'm talking about at all now. I'm talking about the OP that didn't find what he was looking for... not you. Not me. Him. Be less egocentric for a moment, and you'll see that.

Find me the repository that has Fring. Please. I want their ability to stream in Skype video.

And you're the one that declares it legitimate? N00b please.

You seriously are one self-absorbed troll. Begone.

Ouch that was a smackdown.

I really don't want to get into the middle of this.. as I think you've both gone off your meds..

But fMMS has really gotten to the point that it's seriously hard to tell the difference between "integrated" or not.

In fact, it pretty much feels integrated to me because I have the "extra pidgin protocol extensions to contacts" or whatever installed - and each different IM service, while integrated into my contacts now, has their own "conversation" window.

So I have a conversation window for Facebook, AIM, Gtalk, SMS, and MMS. It all "feels" the same.

Now granted, it would be nice to have *all* communication with a particular contact inside a single convo window.. but meh. Not that big of a deal..

The fact that I have to justify why I'm here, in a forum and have been here for 3 years... and I'm the one off my meds!?

To hell with that notion. It's as "integrated" as it is cleverly tacked on.

I am in awe of the potential of this device but at the same time I am afraid I will do something to really screw it up. As a noob I feel fortunate there is a active community of knowledgeable gurus here to help us less talented in the ways of linux find our way. Seems there is a steep learning curve but that is part of the experience. If I get too overwhelmed I can always fall back to my Blackberry 9700...which seems so ordinary and boring now. I am probably the type of user that should be using something easier to work with but what is the fun in that?
Thanks guys.
Doc

Yea.. for the one person who spit this out on others who can get affected.
1 to how many? There is also couple of psychological terms to describe this behaviour and doing more damage.

I write it here.
I was full of respect to you when I noticed you are my brother in arm in terms of profession, Flash developer.

I lost it when I see that you are opt-in iPhone 4G and complaining about many things on this forum. Are you going to support company who pissing on you? Telling you tones of lies and you gonna believe?

Do you know why Flash gurus are called themselves evangelist?

Why you complaining about N900 so much then? Are you looking for justification why you are just another guy who's bought all this lies?

I agree with you that people need to stop telling you to go away and ask why you're here...

But damn you've gotten a bit grumpy .

It's integrated enough for me, anyway.

Wouldn't you get a little grumpy? Hell, I'm still trying to justify a N900 purchase and I'm steadily put off from buying one because then I'll go from being "you don't own one now" to "your N900 probably was built after mine!"... I CAN'T WIN!

Oh, trust me. I've seen what's been going on with it and it's pretty darn cool. It's just a sticking point for me that somehow the phone bits are closed. Sorta odd.