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	ysss	2010-05-07 , 17:21
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Originally Posted by Tedri Mark

I yeah, I was definitely laying the bait for you all, I'll freely admit!

This thread was basically inspired by another thread where the OP stated he was going to swap his n900 because his friend's fone had an amaaaaaazing function where it listed nearby restaurants etc. Now, sat in front of a laptop, would you search for a program to download/buy with the same function, or would you just google it? I know which I'd choose and it is exactly this which means a 'lack of apps' isn't actually a big deal at all...

You mean that you get to your computer then you will google for the exact address\street name (and tweak/refine the results) before you print/email the results to yourself?

But the LBS-app alternative only involves taking out your mobile phone and cilcking a 'I'm here' button before it displays a list of places available around you, usually sorted by the distance. Alternatively, the direction and distance can be represented as 3D icons overlay over live video feed from your camera, if the device has digital compass.

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Tedri Mark	2010-05-07 , 17:25
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All true, I've so far only been tinkering online via a wi-fi connection.

As for the screen real estate issue, I think 800x480 is pretty much acceptable - my computer hooked up to an old plasma in my front room only runs 800 x 600 and I use that on a daily basis for googling, playing stuff off last.fm etc..

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Tedri Mark	2010-05-07 , 17:27
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Originally Posted by ysss

You mean that you get to your computer then you will google for the exact address\street name (and tweak/refine the results) before you print/email the results to yourself?

But the LBS-app alternative only involves taking out your mobile phone and cilcking a 'I'm here' button before it displays a list of places available around you, usually sorted by the distance. Alternatively, the direction and distance can be represented as 3D icons overlay over live video feed from your camera, if the device has digital compass.

No I mean I'd pull out my fone and do exactly what I'd do on a computer: Google it.

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gerbick	2010-05-07 , 17:27
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Originally Posted by cashclientel

@gerbick I think you've missed his point

Actually, I didn't. Until Flash Player 10 arrives, I can't even test my own Flash Builder 4 stuff since it's all FP10.

So saying that you have "all of the *.swf's" is rather misleading.

Regardless... this kind of thread has been done over and over. Even I'm starting to see the patterns.

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Laughing Man	2010-05-07 , 17:28
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Resolution isn't the only aspect to keep in mind, you also have to consider the physical display (3.5 inches in this case).

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Tedri Mark	2010-05-07 , 17:31
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Originally Posted by Laughing Man

Resolution isn't the only aspect to keep in mind, you also have to consider the physical display (3.5 inches in this case).

Meh... pixels is pixels...

(Whether or not I'd say that if I was 60 is another matter....)

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	ysss	2010-05-07 , 17:38
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At the end of the day you have to go back to looking at this from a practical and realistic point of view..

Sure, having a 'full' linux machine in your pocket no doubt you can do everything you do on your desktop (and maybe more) when you're off and about. Perhaps even by relaying or offloading the work to other machines that you have wireless access to. It's practically unlimited.

But doesn't it matter how you do it? If it takes 1-2 minutes to do something that other phones can finish within seconds, don't they 'win' this particular use case?

ps: "pixel is pixel" doesn't tell the whole picture, unfortunately...

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Niggydip	2010-05-07 , 17:51
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The ultimate app for me at this point in time is something that wld just check the exponential battery drain issue...it's so annoying! Why wld I have to use my device wiv 1/5th brightness all the time just to conserve battery?

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Tedri Mark	2010-05-07 , 17:54
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Originally Posted by ysss

At the end of the day you have to go back to looking at this from a practical and realistic point of view..

Sure, having a 'full' linux machine in your pocket no doubt you can do everything you do on your desktop (and maybe more) when you're off and about. Perhaps even by relaying or offloading the work to other machines that you have wireless access to. It's practically unlimited.

But doesn't it matter how you do it? If it takes 1-2 minutes to do something that other phones can finish within seconds, don't they 'win' this particular use case?

Possibly, it's just that the thread that inspired this one seemed to be the equivalent of someone swapping a ferrari for a ford because the ford had fancy cupholders...

Originally Posted by ysss

ps: "pixel is pixel" doesn't tell the whole picture, unfortunately...

Please elaborate..

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	ysss	2010-05-07 , 18:21
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Originally Posted by Tedri Mark

Possibly, it's just that the thread that inspired this one seemed to be the equivalent of someone swapping a ferrari for a ford because the ford had fancy cupholders...

I agree that there are plenty of flash and marketing gimmicks that accompany of the apps' features, but there are good and justified functionalities for the LBS ones, at least.

Please elaborate..

The true physical measurement of the displayed font matters to your eyes. There are comfort limits to which most people are used to and these are used for printing standards. It doesn't matter if your 3.5" screen has a resolution of 1920x1080, you would probably resize your font to a comfortable size anyway (for most purposes).

Apple has been very good in this regard. I'm betting that when the iPhone 4 comes out with 960x480 screen, the physical default font size will not change. They will just be rendered sharper.