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#92
i don't see what all the fuss is about, at the end of the day we all got the n900 being fully aware that it is predominantly a landscape orientated phone.
 
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#93
Originally Posted by phpman View Post
I don't understand what would be worst if the n900 would have an optional portrait mode and a good phone app ?
the N900 is a phone! it has a cellular radio, sim reader, etc so its a phone... tablet are differents, and a tablet doesnt send sms but just emails! who said that its a tablet, its an ignorant, the tablet concept its too different from the n900 have a look for the oothers tablets!!!!
 
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Nokia wouldn't have made the n900 3.5" if they weren't trying to make it succeed as a mainstream phone.

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Originally Posted by santiago View Post
the N900 is a phone! it has a cellular radio, sim reader, etc so its a phone... tablet are differents, and a tablet doesnt send sms but just emails! who said that its a tablet, its an ignorant, the tablet concept its too different from the n900 have a look for the oothers tablets!!!!
The device has been confirmed as being an "Mobile internet device"/"Internet tablet device" with phone capabilities. Phones only make calls, smartphones have internet capabilities, the N900 is more than capable of handleing the internet.
You should try being less ignorant...
 
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Bears eat beets. Bears, beets, Battlestar Galactica

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I think full portrait mode will be available with PR 1.3. Why do you think Nokia changed virtual keyboard? to make it smaller and with less characters so eventually they will offer portrait mode
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#98
Sorry for breaking up your sentence to respond to individual points, but if you didn't spew such dreadful runons, it wouldn't be necessary....
Originally Posted by abill_uk View Post
Didnt i just know someone would come in and start the argument against posting a link and from the texrat stable.
You said you didn't understand why. Quite reasonable that someone who hasn't kept track of your past posts on the topic could take that as a request for explanation, rather than a statement of despair because you find the explanation worthless.

oh well so be it your words carry no weight whatsoever because a link is exactly that, a link, and is not the actual file
It's important to realize that legal issues are only decided in court, and after massive out-of-pocket expenses on both sides. Although few, if any, US cases have held merely linking to infringing material to be copyright infringement in the final judgement, there have been a number of such cases that did go to trial rather than being discarded out of hand. Even if one is 100% confident (as I am) that Nokia couldn't win in court, there's no guarantee we could fight to that point -- that's why forums like this tend to err so far on the side of caution.

so Nokia even if they did want to be snooty wouldnt simply because of the facts of it just being a link and in any case enough references to that leaked firmware in practically 70% of threads now that Meamo.org would already be in trouble if that was the case AND it was in fact a member of this forum that downloaded it and put it on a download site AND told everyone on here where to get it.
Meamo.org would probably get off the hook.

But maemo.org, on the other hand, can't reasonably have any liability for discussing it -- discussion is an order farther removed from infringement than linking, and AFAIK never made it to trial.

Whether or not a member of this site is involved in the original leak is irrelevant -- only possible impact of that would be a subpoena to determine the identity of the leaker.


Nokia are in the wrong for not making a statement at all regarding this so called leaked fw to the fact it is illegal or not.
Eh? It's clearly illegal in many countries -- the firmware image contains information copyrighted by Nokia, and the default license for all copyrighted material is "all rights reserved", i.e. any redistribution is illegal. Unless you got a license from Nokia to share it, or it's covered by your countries "fair-use" (or equivalent) exception, bittorrenting it is illegal, uploading it to megaupload (or similar) is illegal, and downloading from megaupload (or similar) may or may not be illegal (whether both parties or only the uploading party is considered criminal varies by country).

The initial upload may have been, as some suggest, a violation of the EULA, but EULAs are generally on relatively shaky ground, and in any event that can't apply to someone downloading it and installing it, since they never agreed to the EULA. But copyright issues alone ensure there's a ton of technically illegal acts going on when a leaked build circulates. Many netizens happily ignore these legalities, if only because they find them ridiculous (after all, it's equally illegal, and for the same reasons, to post some file (without a GPL or similar license notice) from a "clean" N900 to help some poor guy who overwrote it on his and save him from a reflash, which we see all the time), but that doesn't make it legal.

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Originally Posted by ZogG View Post
it's called "The School of Logic". just little bit thinking would help you. i hope court don't have to say you it's illegal to kill as well or to steal, or you don't know this too until you told so by court?
Sorry, I forgot the one of the Ten Commandments after thou shalt not kill and thou shalt not steal that goes on to say "and thou shalt not link to firmware that might have been released in disobedience to an NDA that might exist but that you have never seen."
 
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Originally Posted by teh View Post
sigh, how many people need to be reminded of this one fact?

the nokia n900 is not designed as a mobile phone, but an internet tablet like the n770/n800/n810, but with mobile phone / skype calling features

so the option of portrait as standard isn't going to happen. Hence why the phone application is the only application to rotate as standard.

Mods: Feel free to shout at me, but i'm getting sick to the back teeth of coming on this forum to read the same old stuff because people aren't doing research, and then expect everyone to bow at their feet for their stupid mistakes. Ta.
Enough with this joke statement already.
N900 is not a tablet but the world first Mobile Computer.

This is not an excuse to lack behind in features neither an excuse not to do the basics but the next level in high end devices focused on demanding users. N900 as it is fails to deliver that promise. This is all.
 
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