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2010-05-25 , 09:02
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Added "(commercial)" to the title, but doesn't seem to load it yet.
Unfortunately users cannot rename their own threads, only moderators can.
 
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#72
With Silverlight & XNA and some guaranteed support, hello Windows Phone 7.
 
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2010-05-25 , 09:07
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#73
Originally Posted by nosa101 View Post
Compiling is as easy as clicking a checkbox
Im sorry nosa, what part of my post were you replying to? About the Qt of the future? Are you one of the developers on the Qt project or can just see into the future?

An application designed heavily around a capactive screen with multi-touch features, etc etc does not get auto-magically converted to something usable on the n900 by clicking a checkbox. It takes a bit more thought than that Simple push a button on the screen uis, maybe.

I guess we'll have to wait and see, time will tell. In the community we trust
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#74
Originally Posted by Peter@Maemo Marketing View Post
Let's remember that this all about user experience. Polishing software is a lot of work. Polishing each application for resistive screen (as good as it is) is not trivial considering that we are making the UI for our Nokia product on MeeGo for capacitive screens as we have said already in Maemo Summit 2009.
So, never again a accurate resistive screen from Nokia?
 

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2010-05-25 , 09:11
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#75
Originally Posted by kojacker View Post
Im sorry nosa, what part of my post were you replying to? About the Qt of the future? Are you one of the developers on the Qt project or can just see into the future?

An application designed heavily around a capactive screen with multi-touch features, etc etc does not get auto-magically converted to something usable on the n900 by clicking a checkbox. It takes a bit more thought than that
I'm talking about the compiling issue. I don't know about the future but as it stands, the current Nokia SDK allows you to compile for Symbian or Maemo by clicking a checkbox,

The N8 is a capacitive screen with multi touch and using the current SDK, I can compile the same app for the n8 and n900.

If this is possible, I don't see why it should be so hard when meego comes along
 
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2010-05-25 , 09:13
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#76
No surprise here.

I hope Stskeeps and co. are being paid to work on the Meego port (or else why bother).

Lack of and crippled drivers are going to kill the community port of Meego, sorry to say, just like Mer (well that was also lack of focus and direction).

Nokia plays the same bait and switch every time and I'm personally not falling for it. "Open source" except not. Can't call a project truly open source if it's not platform independent.

Partially-open with binary blobs isn't cutting it and I don't know when Nokia, Google, Intel, etc will get this through their heads. Releasing only enough proprietary code to allow your enthusiasts to make a crippled OS is just cruel. This is the software equivalent of carbon credits.

Nokia, Google and [previously] Sony gloat about supporting Linux...yadda yadda yadda, but they simply dangle the carrot, forever out of reach.

The revolution in the mobile OS industry is marketing shenanigans - it's all about keeping a closed loop environment between the handset makers, telecos and the chip manufacturers.

Someday we'll get what we deserve from them, but until then don't keep your hopes up, they just get crushed. =[
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#77
Originally Posted by linuxeventually View Post
No surprise here.

I hope Stskeeps and co. are being paid to work on the Meego port (or else why bother).

Lack of and crippled drivers are going to kill the community port of Meego, sorry to say, just like Mer (well that was also lack of focus and direction).
Yes, I am and others are too. http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900#The_team_and_the_work isn't a small team. Skilled Nokia kernel guys there too. It's a reference implementation, has to be top notch
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2010-05-25 , 09:17
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#78
Originally Posted by Helmuth View Post
So, never again a accurate resistive screen from Nokia?
hopefully some other company will step in and provide decent hardware for a meego device.
 

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2010-05-25 , 09:17
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#79
i think that's better, first we sure to get meamo updates all the time

second we will able to install meego on n900 unofficially

we will get both
 
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2010-05-25 , 09:19
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Originally Posted by linuxeventually View Post
No surprise here.

I hope Stskeeps and co. are being paid to work on the Meego port (or else why bother).

Lack of and crippled drivers are going to kill the community port of Meego, sorry to say, just like Mer (well that was also lack of focus and direction).

Nokia plays the same bait and switch every time and I'm personally not falling for it. "Open source" except not. Can't call a project truly open source if it's not platform independent.

Partially-open with binary blobs isn't cutting it and I don't know when Nokia, Google, Intel, etc will get this through their heads. Releasing only enough proprietary code to allow your enthusiasts to make a crippled OS is just cruel. This is the software equivalent of carbon credits.

Nokia, Google and [previously] Sony gloat about supporting Linux...yadda yadda yadda, but they simply dangle the carrot, forever out of reach.

The revolution in the mobile OS industry is marketing shenanigans - it's all about keeping a closed loop environment between the handset makers, telecos and the chip manufacturers.

Someday we'll get what we deserve from them, but until then don't keep your hopes up, they just get crushed. =[
There is progress in open versions of the closed components.
In fact We'll know what state MeeGo will be in when it is released end of May:

4. Upcoming Release (qgil, 19:47:02)
1. on the releases.... the 1.0 Release will happen around end of May and will include the Netbook user experience (ImadSousou, 19:49:45)
2. The relase has been branched and is being matured now (qgil, 19:50:30)
3. and from here on out, there will be a release every six months... (ImadSousou, 19:50:40)
4. We are targeting to also ship the Handset UX soon after the May release (qgil, 19:51:36)
5. That won't be part of the 1.0 release but comes on top of that (qgil, 19:52:11)
6. The handset UI framework and key applications (qgil, 19:52:46)
7. and ofcourse with parallel to the software platform development, there is also the SDK development and releases (ImadSousou, 19:53:29)
8. Our next TSG meeting will be May 12 at 19:00 UTC (same time every Wednesday) (DawnFoster, 19:55:23)
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