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2010-05-26 , 03:29
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Yes please, let's try to clarify this situation updating that useful wiki page.
Question and Quim's reply added to wiki here
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2010-05-26 , 03:36
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#72
Originally Posted by qgil View Post
There will not be an official MeeGo-Harmattan release for the N900, but there is a possibility that the Nokia official UX and apps for MeeGo-Harmattan are made available to N900 users through a community effort discussed in (this thread). At this point nobody knows what and will not work. Technical discussion, R&D experimentation and official MeeGo-Harmattan releases need to come first in order to tell.
Quite frankly, Nokia damn well better do everything in their power to ensure that Nokia-proprietary and relevant third-party applications (Flash) are available to N900 users using MeeGo.

Anything less would only perfectly confirm (once again) exactly how little Nokia cares for their current customers.
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2010-05-26 , 05:22
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Nokia can decide alone on Nokia proprietary components and yes we want to do our best. But Nokia doesn't have the last word about third party software, and every third party is different. We can't guarantee or even know at this point what will be their position about redistributing their MeeGo-Harmattan software in a community driven version for the N900.

Again, the MeeGo context here helps, since perhaps these companies need to change something anyway in their distribution practices in relation to the MeeGo platform.

Too soon to tell and actually too much of a delicate topic. I'll inform about this community project to the Nokia guys in contact with these companies.
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2010-05-26 , 05:28
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Is that another way of saying, "I don't think flash will want to give out flash 10.1?"
 
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2010-05-26 , 05:56
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Is that another way of saying, "I don't think flash will want to give out flash 10.1?"
I will repeat my answer here:

Originally Posted by qgil View Post
There are questions about future releases of Flash. Skype and other 3rd party components with "consumer brands":

Regular Nokia employees are not supposed to speculate or even announce any news about third party software being supported or not in future releases. The initiative corresponds to the companies owning that software or, alternatively, to an official Nokia channel well in sync with those companies. Due to these reasons, please understand if Nokia guys like me will systematically bypass these questions.
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2010-05-26 , 07:02
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You are confusing Linux distribution named MeeGo, with Nokia project with working name Harmattan, which is an OS built on top of MeeGo, adding Nokia specific services.
Note that we have yet to see how close Harmattan’s base is to MeeGo (the one we’re talking about here). It certainly is not BASED on it (that’s why it was called MeeGo *compatible* and ’instance of’ MeeGo). I suppose things will get a bit clearer when the Harmattan SDK alpha lands and the actual (technical) relation to MeeGo is revealed. Correct me if I’m wrong.
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2010-05-26 , 07:04
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I will repeat my answer here:
Fair enough
 
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2010-05-26 , 07:35
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Any ETA for the Harmattan alpha/beta "platform" SDK?
 
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Originally Posted by attila77 View Post
Note that we have yet to see how close Harmattan’s base is to MeeGo (the one we’re talking about here). It certainly is not BASED on it (that’s why it was called MeeGo *compatible* and ’instance of’ MeeGo). I suppose things will get a bit clearer when the Harmattan SDK alpha lands and the actual (technical) relation to MeeGo is revealed. Correct me if I’m wrong.
You take a basic MeeGo distribution and put Hildon UI (or Qt UI) some Nokia specific apps and services on top and you have system both based on MeeGo and MeeGo compatible - because it has everything MeeGo compatible system requires inside. And it is obviously instance of MeeGo, because there is whole MeeGo core stack inside.

Hope, now you get the idea of what MeeGo is.

In other words it's a way of achieving multi OS application compatibility. If you write an application for the lowest common denominator called MeeGo, your app will run on Nokia Maemo-descendant platforms and on Intel Moblin-descendant platforms and on the in-car computer platform running MeeGo distribution under the hood, and...

Now, there is a point of plain MeeGo running on N900. It's a platform for all these upcoming applications.

Whether Nokia is going to allow redistribution of their proprietary components to N900 users is still unknown. We cannot set a goal of "having Harmattan running on N900", because we don't know whether it will be ever possible.
This is a situation similar to Cyanogen Android distribution. Cyanogen can contain only freely available Android component and is lacking all the Google proprietary apps. You may extract them from your own phone and integrate in Cyanogen installation, but the Cyanogen distribution authors are not allowed to package them.

We at least have a promise that at least 3D drivers will be available for redistribution.
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and whats with YAHOO's tieup with Nokia???

N900 gets update but no MeeGo, Nokia teams up with Yahoo!

http://www.gsmarena.com/n900_gets_up...-news-1685.php
 
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