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Laughing Man	2010-05-14 , 16:32
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I have a suspicion that we'll see Flash 10.1 in Meego. Whether it shows up in the Meego that the N900 will be getting is up in the air though.

The reason why I said it's up in the air is because Nokia has said some users may want to dual boot Meego, some may choose to stay with Maemo5, etc.. And so far Qgil has said that there will be a version of Meego with full support for hardware (but note he didn't say anything about software and what not).

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slaapliedje	2010-05-14 , 16:32
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Originally Posted by HellFlyer

BUT In a perfect world , Nokia wouldn't exist because its not perfect along with flash player and PR 1.2

Only green grass and unicorns

Green grass and unicorns for all!!!

Seriously though, I agree with the previous post, Flash 10.1 isn't even freaking out for Desktop systems yet. It's still at RC.

I've been waiting for Flash 10.1 for a long time now (I'm hoping that the flash operator panel will work a lot better and not suck so much power).

They'd better finally say that the 64bit Linux plugin is also finally a stable release, instead of it still being considered 'alpha' even though I have far less problems with that than running nspluginwrapper.

But more on topic, I still think that Nokia is working hard on finishing it up and is going to include it with PR1.2, since they ARE doing a lot of browser updates, etc.

slaapliedje

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rahulg247	2010-05-14 , 16:34
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I can't see how they can deny us flash 10.1 on what is marketed as a pocket computer with phone functions. Now the smartphones are meant to have a more desktop like browsing experience then a pocket computer??!!!

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	HellFlyer	2010-05-14 , 16:47
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Originally Posted by slaapliedje

Green grass and unicorns for all!!!

Seriously though, I agree with the previous post, Flash 10.1 isn't even freaking out for Desktop systems yet. It's still at RC.

I've been waiting for Flash 10.1 for a long time now (I'm hoping that the flash operator panel will work a lot better and not suck so much power).

They'd better finally say that the 64bit Linux plugin is also finally a stable release, instead of it still being considered 'alpha' even though I have far less problems with that than running nspluginwrapper.

But more on topic, I still think that Nokia is working hard on finishing it up and is going to include it with PR1.2, since they ARE doing a lot of browser updates, etc.

slaapliedje

Sorry to disappoint you but PR 1.2 wont include Flash 10.1 that's for sure , use maemo wiki to see all changes/upgrades it brings

If I remember correctly it updates Flash 9.0.115 to 9.0.124 but that's it

Also RC for desktops has nothing to do with this , there are different platforms x86 and ARM are not compatible besides Adobe shown its dislike to Linux based systems in the past

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"I'm a N900 user, can I haz Flash 10 plz?!11!?"

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slaapliedje	2010-05-14 , 17:08
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Originally Posted by HellFlyer

Sorry to disappoint you but PR 1.2 wont include Flash 10.1 that's for sure , use maemo wiki to see all changes/upgrades it brings

But then I couldn't assume things like so many others here do!!!

Doesn't matter if it's not in the change logs, since the libflashplayer.so file is part of the adobe-flashplayer package. Yes, dpkg -S is very useful

Also RC for desktops has nothing to do with this , there are different platforms x86 and ARM are not compatible besides Adobe shown its dislike to Linux based systems in the past

This I know as well, at least as far as the difference between ARM and x86, but which do you think the FINAL release of Flash 10.1 will come out for? Here's a hint... it's not going to be ARM.

Either they'll release them simultaneously, or the x86 version will be released first.

If people would just research things....

Here are the facts as we have them.

Adobe says "well anyone who is a partner of the Open Screen Project has been given the porting kit for Flash 10.1" Nokia is a partner of the Open Screen Project.

So it's really up to Nokia if Flash comes out for the N900. And really it comes down to is it worth it to Nokia? Well how much of a ***** slap would they get from their customers if they did this?

Realistically, Maemo 5 should be more like it's Debian roots, where they can update different packages at different times. But since PR1.2 is a major over haul of key libraries, it's almost more of a difference between Debian Etch and Debian Lenny. Unfortunately the Maemo upgrade package is more like a metapackage, where it covers a lot of different packages that aren't installable individually. I understand the why, but doesn't mean I have to like it.

On another point, running ldd /usr/lib/browser/plugins/libflashplayer.so in your terminal will show you what the flash player depends upon.

Sadly the dependencies are far higher than they are on my Arch Linux box's version of 10.0.

There are dependencies upon gtk, pulse, gstreamer? Odd.

slaapliedje

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slaapliedje	2010-05-14 , 17:18
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Originally Posted by HellFlyer

Sorry to disappoint you but PR 1.2 wont include Flash 10.1 that's for sure , use maemo wiki to see all changes/upgrades it brings

If I remember correctly it updates Flash 9.0.115 to 9.0.124 but that's it

Also RC for desktops has nothing to do with this , there are different platforms x86 and ARM are not compatible besides Adobe shown its dislike to Linux based systems in the past

Been trying to find the wiki entry where it talked about the entries (last time I looked at it was when it was first created a few months back)

Care to share the link? Was it removed?

slaapliedje

Found it. http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_5/PR1.2 Doesn't list anything about the flash version AND shows that the last time it was updated was March 22nd, which is over a month ago.

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	HellFlyer	2010-05-14 , 18:14
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Originally Posted by slaapliedje

Been trying to find the wiki entry where it talked about the entries (last time I looked at it was when it was first created a few months back)

Care to share the link? Was it removed?

slaapliedje

Found it. http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_5/PR1.2 Doesn't list anything about the flash version AND shows that the last time it was updated was March 22nd, which is over a month ago.

Yeah I looked only here not the wiki http://repository.maemo.org/stable/f...t_changes.html

Not sure but try to look here ,and the flash player version post was in leaked PR 1.2 as i remember , look in leaked PR 1.2 thread it might be there

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impaler	2010-05-15 , 01:54
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Originally Posted by slaapliedje

So it's really up to Nokia if Flash comes out for the N900. And really it comes down to is it worth it to Nokia? Well how much of a ***** slap would they get from their customers if they did this?

Well going by this thread alone I am sure many can be vocal enough about it. The fact is that we have already spent the money, they should pay us back by keeping up with software updates including flash. IMHO It is a major part of the "unique" full web experience of this platform.

What I would like to see is the opensource as3 Air based IDE http://code.google.com/p/minibuilder/ working on this platform. I guess there are even more barriers I have no idea about for that even. Anyone see that ever being a reality?

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neotalk	2010-05-27 , 14:32
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I emailed nokia in febuary and was assured of 3 things...fully working pc suite voice with sat nav and flash 10.1 ....i emailed them about 3 weeks ago about this and they never replied....i resent the email 2 weeks ago and they never replied. I have sent another email today. I have also spent over 2 hours on hold this week trying to speak with someone at nokia care....no one answered......lol....i dont think they wanna talk to me?