ok lets look at apples stock, then read some apple iphone boards and compare this to nokia's stock and read these boards. I do agree neither cares if you live or die, but it seems one at least giving the impression they care about existing users has not actually hurt the company.

I agree with this.

'Care' in the sense of, uh... having their interests aligned with the customers.

woaw!!! :-D

Another interesting article from ARM now about Adobe Flash 10.1 optimized for ARM based tech:

http://www.liliputing.com/2010/05/ar...martbooks.html

ARM: It ain’t the chips that are delaying the launch of smartbooks

It’s been almost a year since chip-maker Qualcomm coined the term “smartbook” to describe a new kind of device that would be a cross between a smartphone and a netbook. Like smartphones, these so-called smartbooks would have low power ARM-based processors, long battery life, and always-connected access to the internet through 3G wireless networks. But they’d have reasonably large screens and keyboards, like netbooks.

Flash forward nearly 12 months, and you still can’t walk into a store and buy a smartbook. HP, Lenovo, and a few other companies have promised to bring devices matching Qualcomm’s description to market. But so far there’s just nothing on the shelves.

ARM spokesperson Ian Drew says the problem isn’t with the hardware – it’s largely software. First, he suggests that part of the appeal of a Smartbook is that it’s supposed to be able to access the full web experience — including Adobe Flash content. But Adobe still hasn’t officially released the long-promised version of Flash Player 10.1 optimized for Google Android and ARM-powered devices.

Second, Apple sparked interest in the tablet field with the successful launch of the iPad. That’s not necessarily a bad thing for ARM, which licenses its designs to the chip-makers building processors that power most of the me-too tablets expected to come out in the next few months.

Finally, Drew says that ARM-based smartbooks suffer a bit because they can’t run Windows, which is only designed to run on x86 processors. While some of the earliest netbooks, including the Asus Eee PC 701 and OLPC XO Laptop ran Linux, today more than 90 percent of the netbooks on the market ship with Windows.

While I certainly think a Google Android or Linux smartbook could prove successful, smartbook makers and wireless carriers will have an uphill battle trying to convince users that a device that looks almost exactly like a notebook operates more like a smartphone and can’t run Microsoft Office or other desktop software. That’s a problem Apple managed to avoid by introducing a tablet that looks a lot more like an iPod touch than a MacBook Pro.

While I suspect we’ll see smartbooks from HP and Lenovo hit the streets soon, it’s anybody’s guess whether they’ll fully support Adobe Flash at launch. And whether they’ll actually strike a chord with consumers is an even bigger question. I suspect most other PC and phone makers will wait to see the answer before fully commiting to the smartbook space.

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Now, this is about smartbooks...I finally was able to mess around with a Froyo Nexus one from a friend of a colleague...Flash 10.1 was actually very dissapointing. Mouth sync became off around 1 minute into video, lag even though video was fully downloaded...Is it possible Adobe is actually holding off on ARM based tech altogether until they have a fully optimized product?

Anyways, just some food for thought.

I am not very certain if the link below is of much relevance or if it has already been posted. Felt that it might be of some relevance, so sharing it with you all !

http://www.dailytech.com/N900+Sales+...ticle18546.htm

The above dosen't say anything about N900 but raises a single ray of hope.

When we will have flash player 10.1 upgrade for N900 ?

Thanks.....

we won't.. well at least it's not announced as of yet

Supermod tip
merge to http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=54087

So you mean we will have flash player 10.1 upgrade in future..

Thanks...

not very helpful but this is an email i received today:

Hi Neo,

Thank you for e-mailing the Nokia Care Contact Center.

Based on your concern, the N900 currently supports Flash Player ver. 9. But please be advised that updates will take place and hopefully the update for the player will be included as well. I would also like to inform you that this request has already been addressed and forwarded to our development team for consideration. In the meantime, we apologize for the inconvernience and we kindly ask for your patience with regrads to this matter.

I hope the information provided proves useful.

If you have any additional question, please don't hesitate to contact us again. To ensure proper handling of your case, kindly continue using the current subject line.

Thank you very much for your email. Have a great day.


Best Regards,

Kristel Avis
Email Specialist
Nokia Inc.