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#131
Thought I avoided this one, sadly check my account and this number shows up 491771787772 .

I flashed mine sys and emmc and then restored my back up. never remember seeing anything about sms. I did goto my ovi store account and it had sms unchecked, but I'm not sure it that was like that before or after I press (only choice) unsubscribe (rookie move ).

I never received any sms's at all and nothing in the out box (pretty sneaky sis), you would think they would do that over wifi.

I too chose this phone so I wouldn't have to activate it or login to use it. I enjoy controlling what nokia know about me or my uses (not that they really care about me, probably more about stats) so this is a bit of a let down and hint to what coming down the road..I think.

I'm happy that this community is on top of it (another reason I got the n900) though I wish I would have know about the cherry stuff before I updated (dammit, thought I waited long enough..)

So what's next? Bug report? Hack'n & delete'n? Curs'n & spat'n...

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#132
Originally Posted by arne.anka View Post
it isn't.
nokia makes _your_ phone send _private_ information (yes, your phone number _is_ private information) without your consent and on top of that makes you pay for it.

it's not only a breach of privacy, but at least in germany, and probably the rest of the eu as well, illegal.
If they didn't ask for permission, it is indeed illegal in all of the EU. Directive EC95/46 clearly establishes that, and it was transposed into Finnish national law by way of the Personal Data Act (June 1999).

Maybe someone should contact the Finnish Data Protection Ombudsman:

http://www.tietosuoja.fi/

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#133
I assume the source code for the cherry executable and libraries aren't available?

Does the .cherry_state file contain anything, or is it just a 0-byte length file which means something by its presence or absence?
 
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#134
Well, it's a bit late for that now, the message was sent for most of us.

Also, that bug report makes me wanna scream. All kinds of people reporting that the SMS costs money and then they have to pay 2 messages. TWO! You'd think they had to sell their car.

The problem is that they send personal info to Nokia. The very nature of the service is keeping a list of numbers, all having N900 phones. I don't want to start receiving SMSs with personalized offers. If they do, I'll go and not quietly. Nokia can have a testimony from my phone company when they started sending me "offers" through the SMS service.

They subscribed me by opt-in, and sent me a pre-paid envelope I should manually check what I want, then mail it back. In the mean time, they would keep sending me stuff. That was a heck of a show. After threatening to move my whole company to the competition and lodging several complaints with various regulatory bodies, they backed down and unsubscribed me. I probably have a big red comment in my file that says "Don't send anything to this nutcase".

And I'm loving it. This isn't Google, it's not free. I pay for my service and my phone and it should be ad free. Advice free. Hint free. Whatever.

And just to give you the idea of what pushed me over the edge, after days and days of inane messages, I went to bed at 6 AM, completely shot. At 8 AM, phone rings (2 hours sleep in 48). I jump out, fiddle with the controls, I answer. A robot voice informs me that staring today, there's an offer ... I hang up, swearing. I must have dozed of for 2 seconds, the phone rings. Scramble up, answer. "Starting today ...". Hang up. The third time my brain actually boots up and I realize they'll keep doing it until I press whatever DTMF they want. I pull the battery.

6 PM, I wake up. Power the phone, a SMS pops in under 10 seconds. "Starting today ...". Apparently, if I am fast enough to press the DTMF when they call me, I get SMSs to 5 cents from the regular 7, on Monday. During the day, until 7 PM (09:00-19:00).

That's when I snapped.


I'll fight tooth and nail for my right to have a ring tone attached to my SMS and sleep at night. My phone is an important tool. People call me when a server is down and a hundred people stand still, twiddling thumbs, at 3 AM. When it rings, I jump. I get SMSs from fire alarms and monitoring stations. When I get an SMS, I read it. This isn't the number to send junk to.

Some people like junk emails, junk SMS, notifications and attention. They go vacationing with friends. I don't want attention. I leave for a small island in a country where I can't understand the language.

Am I in the minority about the privacy over price?
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#135
It's not the end of the world! Just unsubscribe!
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#136
Originally Posted by ndi View Post
Well, it's a bit late for that now, the message was sent for most of us.
It's not too late for those of us (like myself) who haven't yet updated to PR 1.2. We shouldn't give up trying to analyse/fix/workaround this bug yet.
 

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#137
I'll need instructions what to do, after I have upgraded OTA through USB-networking without SIM-card, so the SMS would not get send, when I first time boot N900 with a SIM-card.
 
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#138
If Nokia sell the N900 in your country, maybe you can ask them this exact question.
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"N900 community support for the MeeGo-Harmattan" Is the new "Mer is Fremantle for N810".

No more Nokia devices for me.
 
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#139
At the first run in PR1.2 i just got a message asking me for My Nokia registration ...
 
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#140
For all those, who say its not a problem, if Nokia does that - is it a problem when another company does it ? What if other installed software also wants to send SMS ? What if more than one SMS gets sent ? Is two also ok ? ... or 5, or 10 ?

Where do you want to draw the line ?

I draw my line at zero SMS from nobody.
This behavior is not ok, not by Nokia and not by any one else. Period.
 

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