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2010-06-09
, 06:55
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Joined on Jun 2010
@ Switzerland
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#22
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Found out more details during night:
so its not the operating system hanging. just a few apps seem to use so much cpu, that all the system is slowing down. I left the device charging and turned on during night, with x-terminal top activated.
when trying to activate with the slider on the right, it took several seconds to activate. when trying to activate with the to buton there is the risk to stay to long on it and shutting down the device.
top shows the following (cpu > 3; memory):
user/bin/facebook 7.1 - 12.4; 1.1
user/bin/dbus-daemo 8.3; 3.9
user/bin/feedservice 7; 2.1
(mmicqd) 4; 0.0
system reacting so slow, that messages like "hildon-home does not react anymore, do you want to close it" come up. Uninstall could not be started.
After reboot i uninstalled all of the facebook apps, some could not be uninstalled but were uninstalled from other uninstalls:
Facebook Desktop Widget 0,5.3
Facebook Installer 1.0.-4.1.11+OU.5
Facebook Sharing Plugin 0.5.1 (including 2 Services?)
Facebook Widget and Photo Uploader 0,5.3
Since then the system is running stable for about 2 hours now. But i will try to reinstall later.
Anyway, i will learn how to do reflash and how to backup correctly (i heard the build in backup-solution is only for a few data like pim).
@one1002: Thank you, i will have to read though a thread describing how to backup to external media.
@gabby131: I will reflash, after having learned about it. I suppose my ota-update hat some other problems too (thank you for that hint) and i wand everything to be corrected. hope there are german images available.
@9000: Thank you, i found that mobile-phone-carriers (currently 3) in our country do have different quality concerning theyr services. I did stay with a more expensive carrier which is knows for good support and quality. I also realized with my previous (htc-branded) device, that the carrier usually has to define settings for every supported phone (mine was imported and not supported). as for the n900: it is offered by my carrier and therefore i suppose it is supported too. while discussing with the support they told me that the network-technology is all from ericsson. so there might be minor differences too concerning that. I'm able to switch from 3g to gsm and back using the switching-widget and i always disconnect the mobile-data-connection when i don't use it. this seems to work good. - hey, the lord bless you and your family (and your n900;-) too.
so its not the operating system hanging. just a few apps seem to use so much cpu, that all the system is slowing down. I left the device charging and turned on during night, with x-terminal top activated.
when trying to activate with the slider on the right, it took several seconds to activate. when trying to activate with the to buton there is the risk to stay to long on it and shutting down the device.
top shows the following (cpu > 3; memory):
user/bin/facebook 7.1 - 12.4; 1.1
user/bin/dbus-daemo 8.3; 3.9
user/bin/feedservice 7; 2.1
(mmicqd) 4; 0.0
system reacting so slow, that messages like "hildon-home does not react anymore, do you want to close it" come up. Uninstall could not be started.
After reboot i uninstalled all of the facebook apps, some could not be uninstalled but were uninstalled from other uninstalls:
Facebook Desktop Widget 0,5.3
Facebook Installer 1.0.-4.1.11+OU.5
Facebook Sharing Plugin 0.5.1 (including 2 Services?)
Facebook Widget and Photo Uploader 0,5.3
Since then the system is running stable for about 2 hours now. But i will try to reinstall later.
Anyway, i will learn how to do reflash and how to backup correctly (i heard the build in backup-solution is only for a few data like pim).
@one1002: Thank you, i will have to read though a thread describing how to backup to external media.
@gabby131: I will reflash, after having learned about it. I suppose my ota-update hat some other problems too (thank you for that hint) and i wand everything to be corrected. hope there are german images available.
@9000: Thank you, i found that mobile-phone-carriers (currently 3) in our country do have different quality concerning theyr services. I did stay with a more expensive carrier which is knows for good support and quality. I also realized with my previous (htc-branded) device, that the carrier usually has to define settings for every supported phone (mine was imported and not supported). as for the n900: it is offered by my carrier and therefore i suppose it is supported too. while discussing with the support they told me that the network-technology is all from ericsson. so there might be minor differences too concerning that. I'm able to switch from 3g to gsm and back using the switching-widget and i always disconnect the mobile-data-connection when i don't use it. this seems to work good. - hey, the lord bless you and your family (and your n900;-) too.
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2010-06-09
, 08:21
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Joined on Dec 2009
@ Gothenburg, Sweden
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#23
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Originally Posted by itsANDREW
Hi Andrew, I am starting to suspect that one thing that perhaps could be a huge battery eater is the 3g connection. I'm not sure if this is related to PR1.2 at all (probably not), but at my workplace I notice that the 3g signal is kind of weak and battery drain goes quick during working hours but slows down to a minimum when I'm elsewhere, so I suspect that the device increase the signal strength and of course eat more battery. The question is whether the radio module/software has some glitches or is in the need for optimization. Maybe I need some more info about other phones and with the same mobile network in the area to see if the N900 stands out with the signal strength.
Eating a full battery within 1-2 hours... that's highly unusual.
May I ask what usage your device is put through during that time?
Also, widgets usually eat away at battery life and combined with constant web browsing, can shorten it drastically.
I'm not an expert within this area, so I'll leave that for the more experienced that may (hopefully) pass by later today, but I'm sure it's not a problem that can't be fixed.
I'm currently on a N900 as well, and my battery life, even with 3G running is generally a little less than a day with moderate web browsing and calling/texting. With no or little internet connection but moderate calling/texting, I get up to two days.
Best of luck to you though Christian, and make sure you keep checking back!
1-2 hours though sound a little bit too much to me. I get like 7-8 hours to reach like 15-20% of battery left at the office place (but that's a little bit high too if you ask me).
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2010-06-09
, 18:01
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Joined on Jun 2010
@ Switzerland
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#24
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Originally Posted by Larswad
Well in my case, it seems to have been due to cpu-consuming faulty applications running all the time. Today I did not have any problem anymore (uninstalled the suspicous widget). Got to say that without that problem my device gets a remaining about 90 % of charge after a work-day (all wireless lan and wireless mobile data off), just beeing in standby. But in the evening and with heavy using wlan, it goes down rather quickly ;-)
Hi Andrew, I am starting to suspect that one thing that perhaps could be a huge battery eater is the 3g connection. I'm not sure if this is related to PR1.2 at all (probably not), but at my workplace I notice that the 3g signal is kind of weak and battery drain goes quick during working hours but slows down to a minimum when I'm elsewhere, so I suspect that the device increase the signal strength and of course eat more battery. The question is whether the radio module/software has some glitches or is in the need for optimization. Maybe I need some more info about other phones and with the same mobile network in the area to see if the N900 stands out with the signal strength.
1-2 hours though sound a little bit too much to me. I get like 7-8 hours to reach like 15-20% of battery left at the office place (but that's a little bit high too if you ask me).
I will now try to reinstall the widget anew and reflash if the same error will occur until tomorrow.
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2010-06-09
, 23:50
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Joined on Feb 2010
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#25
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I used to have the same problems - the battery died quickly, phone was slow and was getting slower over time to the point it needed reboots to work. I have found that turning off wifi with the Wifi Switcher is the reason of this weird behaviour (everything worked ok before PR1.2). Try turning off automatic connecting to known wifi APs to save the battery instead.
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2010-06-10
, 00:21
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Posts: 172 |
Thanked: 170 times |
Joined on Jan 2010
@ Sweden
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#26
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I recently did an OTA update to PR1.2 and got similar battery problems (dead in 2-3 hours). In my case, Conky showed me that the CPU clock-rate never goes below 500MHz (even when only at 5%-10% CPU load). I don't have the overclocking kernel installed, so that is not the root of the problem. But, as others have suggested, the easiest way to solve a problem like this is simply to reflash:
1) Run the backup-app and do an internal backup in N900
2) Plug your N900 into a computer and copy all files to your PC (the reflash will delete EVERYTHING, including photos, music, etc)
3) Reflash everything, both standard flash and eMMC flash. Howto at:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware
4) Copy all your files back to your N900 (make sure you place the backup directory where it was before)
5) Run the backup-app again to restore everything.
1) Run the backup-app and do an internal backup in N900
2) Plug your N900 into a computer and copy all files to your PC (the reflash will delete EVERYTHING, including photos, music, etc)
3) Reflash everything, both standard flash and eMMC flash. Howto at:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware
4) Copy all your files back to your N900 (make sure you place the backup directory where it was before)
5) Run the backup-app again to restore everything.
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2010-06-10
, 00:38
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Posts: 150 |
Thanked: 80 times |
Joined on Dec 2009
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#27
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Originally Posted by Larswad
I'm not sure if it's been changed in PR 1.2 but if you've set the phone mode to dual, it'll eat more battery as it constantly searches for 3G. I could be wrong though, my memory is a bit hazy.
Hi Andrew, I am starting to suspect that one thing that perhaps could be a huge battery eater is the 3g connection. I'm not sure if this is related to PR1.2 at all
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2010-06-10
, 02:10
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Posts: 355 |
Thanked: 245 times |
Joined on Jul 2009
@ Northern VA
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#28
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Originally Posted by Bratag
I noticed that the icon on the fm transmitter with the new 1.2 update was changing colors everytime I exited an app, or went to switch apps and went home screen, has anyone else noticed this drain?
Speaking of widgets that eat battery life. FMtransmitter and personal countdown can be major hogs. FMtransmitter seems to poll the state of the device to see if fm is on and update the icon. It does this often and I have gotten much better life after removing it.
Personal countdown - its important to change the update period so something realistic.
I can also agree with the emmc flashing option. Originally for 1.2 I didnt flash everything - just the fiasco - had major issues. Since flashing emmc as well as fiasco - much improved.
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2010-06-10
, 06:19
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Posts: 2,829 |
Thanked: 1,459 times |
Joined on Dec 2009
@ Finland
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#29
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Originally Posted by stefanmohl
I would recommend to NOT restore applications. Install one by one and see if some widget etc. gives you trouble.
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5) Run the backup-app again to restore everything....
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2010-06-10
, 07:56
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Posts: 23 |
Thanked: 3 times |
Joined on Jun 2010
@ Switzerland
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Originally Posted by stefanmohl
Thank you, this Process-Description helps a lot
I recently did an OTA update to PR1.2 and got similar battery problems (dead in 2-3 hours). In my case, Conky showed me that the CPU clock-rate never goes below 500MHz (even when only at 5%-10% CPU load). I don't have the overclocking kernel installed, so that is not the root of the problem. But, as others have suggested, the easiest way to solve a problem like this is simply to reflash:
1) Run the backup-app and do an internal backup in N900
2) Plug your N900 into a computer and copy all files to your PC (the reflash will delete EVERYTHING, including photos, music, etc)
3) Reflash everything, both standard flash and eMMC flash. Howto at:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware
4) Copy all your files back to your N900 (make sure you place the backup directory where it was before)
5) Run the backup-app again to restore everything.
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"The best way to break a Spell is to prevent it from being cast in the first place"
N900: 1000/1150mhz; sampling_rate 15; up_threshold 150000;