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2010-06-17 , 21:11
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Originally Posted by qwerty12 View Post
With Nokia's oFono, that makes sense.

However, it's not like Android doesn't have Maemo beat in other areas relating to calls.

Android Vs. Maemo

Maemo web page cannot be found.

Was that the point?
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#222
Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
Maemo web page cannot be found.

Was that the point?
Yes

(That's not fake BTW - the Call UI you see in Maemo is provided by that package )
 
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Originally Posted by smoku View Post
My opinion is the main problem is in the fact, that Maemo is not Nokia core business product. IIRC 98% of revenue is generated by Symbian devices.
wrong - cash cow is S40 selling like hell in Asia, smartphones (and smart consumers for pair) are on short supply, especially in US where sanity had been dropped in return for velvet rope of fruity sales point...
 
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#224
Personally I'm really upset about updating to PR1.2 without warning before, after the update I can't find a function anymore I used several times a week... I reported a bug and the only official answer I get is: "Nokia currently does not plan to reintroduce this." => RESOLVED / WONTFIX

No excuse, no hotfix, no target set (for the Device I payed for!), no compensation payment. Nothing!

"We have turned it off and removed the code. Live with it or sell your device on ebay for 300 bucks instead of the payed 600!"

I got screwed over. And not for the first time with this Device. This is not a good feeling... and had I known it before I had never considered to order a N900.
 
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Originally Posted by Helmuth View Post
Personally I'm really upset about updating to PR1.2 without warning before, after the update I can't find a function anymore I used several times a week... I reported a bug and the only official answer I get is: "Nokia currently does not plan to reintroduce this." => RESOLVED / WONTFIX

No excuse, no hotfix, no target set (for the Device I payed for!), no compensation payment. Nothing!

"We have turned it off and removed the code. Live with it or sell your device on ebay for 300 bucks instead of the payed 600!"

I got screwed over. And not for the first time with this Device. This is not a good feeling... and had I known it before I had never considered to order a N900.

Know how you feel buddy

Everyone here is looking forward to meego, but what I see happening next year is Nokia abandoning meego and going android.

Android is maturing nicely, while meego is due for release q3 2010 ???, currently android has 30,000 apps and prob at least another 10,000 by the time meego is released. Nokia is chasing its on tail while the mobile world rapidly moves forward without it.

The way nokia has handled the n900 saga illustrates a company that has lost its direction, android has a gameplan and a product to back it up, nokia has neither. Meego may live on in the backwater of the mobile world, but for me Apple OS and Android will be the gorillas.
 
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Originally Posted by garyc2010 View Post
what I see happening next year is Nokia abandoning meego and going android.
I don't see Nokia willingly placing their future in the hands of Google. I also don't see them being forced into running Android.

Certainly, I'd be disappointed if Android won the day.
 
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Originally Posted by Helmuth View Post
"We have turned it off and removed the code. Live with it or sell your device on ebay for 300 bucks instead of the payed 600!"
You can always reflash whichever firmware you bought the device with.
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Originally Posted by wmarone View Post
I don't see Nokia willingly placing their future in the hands of Google. I also don't see them being forced into running Android.

Certainly, I'd be disappointed if Android won the day.
I agree. I think that is very, very unlikely. Nokia being reduced to a hardware manufacturer of me-too devices, fighting against HTC et.c.? Nevermind that beyond all the dire predictions, the reality is that Symbian still has what, more than double the marketshare of Android and iOS combined? I would question any executive that would throw down the towel so spectacularly, especially when it is apparent that the future will be commodization of hardware and a lot of the profit coming from services.
 
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Originally Posted by wmarone View Post
I don't see Nokia willingly placing their future in the hands of Google. I also don't see them being forced into running Android.

Certainly, I'd be disappointed if Android won the day.
well they may have no choice, sure look at their stock warnings.

Nokia cannot control the market !

The big problem for Nokia is Devlopers, as monkey boy once said "Developers, Developers, Developers !!!!"

Software Developers have to make a living, they are going to develop for the biggest markets surely, which will be android and iphone os.

What WILL nokia do if no apps are developed for meego or they are as piss poor as the ones on the n900 ???

the mobile market will see more convergence, and platforms will dissapear, maemo has already left the stage, meego is going to have on hell of a battle. what developer is going to back nokia when they have not even a clear roadmap ????
 
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Originally Posted by garyc2010 View Post
well they may have no choice, sure look at their stock warnings.
I'm sure giving up and retreating to Android would not make them look good. There's already lots of Android handsets, and hardware is not a significant differentiation. Even Samsung and Motorola are trying to make moves to their own OSes. What about them?

The big problem for Nokia is Devlopers, as monkey boy once said "Developers, Developers, Developers !!!!"
Monkey boy was also at the helm during their worst decade ever.

Software Developers have to make a living, they are going to develop for the biggest markets surely, which will be android and iphone os.
Well, these days I wouldn't want to try and make a living doing mobile software development. And if they did, the smart ones try to maintain platform independence.

What WILL nokia do if no apps are developed for meego or they are as piss poor as the ones on the n900 ???
First: No need to malign the people here who have done good work on software for the N900. I understand it enhances your argument, but it is dishonest and insulting.

Second: If Nokia rolls out things in a better manner (IE the upper management gets things through their thick skulls) then MeeGo alone could become a significant competitor. They already have a well known API, a dev studio, and by the end of the month images for handset development. Qt is widely known and available, and Nokia has left no doubts as to what the platform will be down the line (not Maemo, MeeGo, not Symbian^3/4, but Qt.)
 

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