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2010-06-19
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Originally Posted by nosa101
Dodging the above question?
You still haven't told us how obtaining drivers requires programming skill?
I am no programmer and I haven't got the faintest clue. Please explain
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2010-06-19
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Originally Posted by nosa101
Nosa you answered your own question or rather gave yourself the reason, you dont understand and i do not have the time nor will i explain in full because this is something i have been working on in my own time without help from Nokia as i dont need their help in any way or form.
Dodging the above question?
I am no programmer and I haven't got the faintest clue. Please explain
Please carry on the OP's question about games and leave me out of it. Thankyou in advance.
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2010-06-19
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Originally Posted by abill_uk
So you have been working on explaining the how obtaining drivers requires programming skill?
Nosa you answered your own question or rather gave yourself the reason, you dont understand and i do not have the time nor will i explain in full because this is something i have been working on in my own time without help from Nokia as i dont need their help in any way or form.
Please carry on the OP's question about games and leave me out of it. Thankyou in advance.
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Writing a thesis on it too?
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2010-06-19
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abill, Windows on the N900...no.
First off, making an ARM port of Windows for the N900. I'd LOVE to see you get a copy of the source code from Microsoft. I'm sure they'd be more than happy to give it to you. Oh, Windows CE/Mobile? When has that ever been stable?
Also, writing ARM drivers for a Windows-handheld platform on a device that was made to run a variant of Debian. You'd have to do it from scratch and you'd have to find a way to get the documentation from Nokia. Again, good luck with that.
Oh and I was more than a bit disturbed by your comment about "after all windows you buy the os not the machine"...you don't know much about licensing, do you? You don't buy it, you rent it. Check the EULA for Windows. Don't give me that "you're buying a license, therefore you own it" bull because it's not true. Check the EULA if you don't believe me.
abill, at first I thought you were just getting a simple point across, but now you're just trolling, yet you say you're going to put a stop to people "baiting" and "provoking" you? I don't think so.
As for the OP, you want to go to Android for your games, then do so. We don't need to hear that "Oh, these games will never come to the N900 because it sucks or developers don't want to make games like this." Consider that the device is still fairly new compared to it's predecessors and people are developing other applications that are needed more than just wanted. If you really want games for the N900, learn to program and make your own or port ones you like, wait for someone to make a good game, stick with the ones the N900 has and get tips to making them run better or go to another phone. Simple as that. If you are willing to say the N900 is not worthy of the same air as the Android just because it lacks a couple of games, then you really shouldn't have bothered the get it or you should have done some research before getting it.
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First off, making an ARM port of Windows for the N900. I'd LOVE to see you get a copy of the source code from Microsoft. I'm sure they'd be more than happy to give it to you. Oh, Windows CE/Mobile? When has that ever been stable?
Also, writing ARM drivers for a Windows-handheld platform on a device that was made to run a variant of Debian. You'd have to do it from scratch and you'd have to find a way to get the documentation from Nokia. Again, good luck with that.
Oh and I was more than a bit disturbed by your comment about "after all windows you buy the os not the machine"...you don't know much about licensing, do you? You don't buy it, you rent it. Check the EULA for Windows. Don't give me that "you're buying a license, therefore you own it" bull because it's not true. Check the EULA if you don't believe me.
abill, at first I thought you were just getting a simple point across, but now you're just trolling, yet you say you're going to put a stop to people "baiting" and "provoking" you? I don't think so.
As for the OP, you want to go to Android for your games, then do so. We don't need to hear that "Oh, these games will never come to the N900 because it sucks or developers don't want to make games like this." Consider that the device is still fairly new compared to it's predecessors and people are developing other applications that are needed more than just wanted. If you really want games for the N900, learn to program and make your own or port ones you like, wait for someone to make a good game, stick with the ones the N900 has and get tips to making them run better or go to another phone. Simple as that. If you are willing to say the N900 is not worthy of the same air as the Android just because it lacks a couple of games, then you really shouldn't have bothered the get it or you should have done some research before getting it.
Jesse~
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N900 + GameGripper + Emulators + Kernel Power = <3
Request: NSF/SPC/GBS/USF/PSF/GSF/2SF/Adlib Player or Add-on for N900
N900 + GameGripper + Emulators + Kernel Power = <3
Request: NSF/SPC/GBS/USF/PSF/GSF/2SF/Adlib Player or Add-on for N900
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2010-06-19
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Originally Posted by abill_uk
Man with tool in woman's mouth not necessarily dentist
Nosa you answered your own question or rather gave yourself the reason, you dont understand and i do not have the time nor will i explain in full because this is something i have been working on in my own time without help from Nokia as i dont need their help in any way or form.
Please carry on the OP's question about games and leave me out of it. Thankyou in advance.
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2010-06-19
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Originally Posted by jperez2009
I know this is basically a Linux community and that the Linux community's general hobby after penguin photoshopping is bashing MS. But let's try to keep it down to a running joke. (THIS community has been among the best I ever met, my respect for Maemo.org)
Oh, Windows CE/Mobile? When has that ever been stable?
Windows for mobile platform is stable, as stable as any other OS for the same platform. And mature. I have no idea what troubles you've had in the past with CE, but I have several devices with CE and none of them have as much as displayed an error, let alone crash, leak, etc.
Let's not forget, the whole load of navigation systems have iGo or similar software, that runs over CE. When was the last time one of those blue-screened?
Originally Posted by jperez2009
It may have Debian on it, but it's wasn't made to run anything. It has an ARM at the core and, let's not forget, ARM is a Microsoft Certified Partner.
Also, writing ARM drivers for a Windows-handheld platform on a device that was made to run a variant of Debian.
As for the elusive drivers, I'm sure it's not quite a shot in the dark. My PNA has CE and interfaces video acceleration, touchscreen, bluetooth, GPS, FM radio and transmitter. It also decodes audio, video, images and has pinouts for serial links that can be used to attach if you have a screwdriver. I'm having a hard time believing it's impossible, especially since Texas Instruments lists it for their 65 nm chip.
Originally Posted by jperez2009
Stop that.
you don't know much about licensing, do you? You don't buy it, you rent it. Check the EULA for Windows.
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N900 dead and Nokia no longer replaces them. Thanks for all the fish.
Keep the forums clean: use "Thanks" button instead of the thank you post.
N900 dead and Nokia no longer replaces them. Thanks for all the fish.
Keep the forums clean: use "Thanks" button instead of the thank you post.
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2010-06-19
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Originally Posted by jperez2009
this is having a go at the op wining at him so not fair as he bought the device expecting better service from nokia...as many many other people suffer the same so he has fair comment imo.
abill, windows on the n900...no.
First off, making an arm port of windows for the n900. I'd love to see you get a copy of the source code from microsoft. I'm sure they'd be more than happy to give it to you. Oh, windows ce/mobile? When has that ever been stable?
this is your opinion and not true.
also, writing arm drivers for a windows-handheld platform on a device that was made to run a variant of debian. You'd have to do it from scratch and you'd have to find a way to get the documentation from nokia. Again, good luck with that.
look at the n900 as a computer and think more on how to configure an os for the components within the device, i remember the days when we had to configure all the data lines for unknown hard drives to get them to be recognised by dos and running a self configuring programme overnight to do the configuring.
Do you honestly think the n900 is only possible to have a varient of debian?.
oh and i was more than a bit disturbed by your comment about "after all windows you buy the os not the machine"...you don't know much about licensing, do you? You don't buy it, you rent it. Check the eula for windows. Don't give me that "you're buying a license, therefore you own it" bull because it's not true. Check the eula if you don't believe me.
wrong because you buy the licence for the os and own the os with the condition to install one pc only and "renting" does not fit that category.
Please see : http://www.microsoft.com/uk/smallbus...installed.mspx
abill, at first i thought you were just getting a simple point across, but now you're just trolling, yet you say you're going to put a stop to people "baiting" and "provoking" you? I don't think so.
as for ysss... No comment (he has been reported by me a few times now).
as for the op, you want to go to android for your games, then do so. We don't need to hear that "oh, these games will never come to the n900 because it sucks or developers don't want to make games like this." consider that the device is still fairly new compared to it's predecessors and people are developing other applications that are needed more than just wanted. If you really want games for the n900, learn to program and make your own or port ones you like, wait for someone to make a good game, stick with the ones the n900 has and get tips to making them run better or go to another phone. Simple as that. If you are willing to say the n900 is not worthy of the same air as the android just because it lacks a couple of games, then you really shouldn't have bothered the get it or you should have done some research before getting it.
Jesse~
This forum is supposed to support not have a go.
This makes you out to be the infamous fanboy sorry to say.
Sorry about the caps i am working and need the caps on, i am not shouting ok.
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2010-06-19
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Reading OPs posts is making my brain melt.. It's like a caveman was sent to our present time and given a computer. I know English is probably not his native language but he doesn't even try. English ain't my native tongue either.
and abill you need to chill dude, you're being aggressive when no one was directly/indirectly attacking you and by the way you phrase and explain your posts you seem like the one with no actually and practical programming knowledge.
I know I'm just contributing to the flamefest here but some things just need to be said.
Also, HELL YEAH I WANT A DAMN GOOD RACING GAME FOR MY N900!
But I'll just wait for a stable and speedy version of psx4all/pcsxm so I could play gran turismo
and abill you need to chill dude, you're being aggressive when no one was directly/indirectly attacking you and by the way you phrase and explain your posts you seem like the one with no actually and practical programming knowledge.
I know I'm just contributing to the flamefest here but some things just need to be said.
Also, HELL YEAH I WANT A DAMN GOOD RACING GAME FOR MY N900!
But I'll just wait for a stable and speedy version of psx4all/pcsxm so I could play gran turismo
DRIVER means DRIVERS for a start so if you were to install for instance windows mobile os into the N900 you will need to make sure it can adress all the hardware components as windows or dos does on a pc.
Reverse engineering is expensive because it is time consuming so that would be the last resort and as we actually own the device it is fair to say we can purchase another os and programme the device with it so if we say windows mobile os and are able to make it configure every component driver wise then we would have a windows mobile which will in itself open the N900 up to a complete new world of availablility apps and games wise.
Now if you know anything about programming and for instance windows you would not have the need to ask me questions that any programmer will know so as i am not your teacher and you do not seem to understand may i suggest you try to research what i am saying so that you fully understand.
I not only have the time nor will i explain in full anything else because there is indeed earning potential for me in this so am not going to elaborate freely on this forum about it.
Now this is the last responce your getting from me ok.