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#21
Originally Posted by pmudgal View Post
My calling card requires me to make a choice of language by pressing a 1 or 2 before being able to dial the destination number, how can I set that up on VICaR currently?

I have been waiting for this app for a long while, thanks a ton in any case.

add "pause" the 1 or 2 when saving the number on your contact
eg.

123456789p1
 

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Originally Posted by epohcj View Post
add "pause" the 1 or 2 when saving the number on your contact
eg.

123456789p1
But this will dial 1 after dialing the phone number. His calling card system expects him to dial 1 before the phone number.

@pmudgal - Correct me if I am wrong here.

And, right now there is no setting in VICaR to add a prefix to the phone numbers. However, can you try this workaround and see if it works?

- Change the "Delay before sending DTMF?" to 3 or 4.
- Make the call from addressbook (No need to change the number).
- When you see the message "pppp12345 sent as DTMF code", dial 1.

I have not tested this because, none of the calling cards I use require a prefix.
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Originally Posted by scifi.guy View Post
But this will dial 1 after dialing the phone number. His calling card system expects him to dial 1 before the phone number.

@pmudgal - Correct me if I am wrong here.

And, right now there is no setting in VICaR to add a prefix to the phone numbers. However, can you try this workaround and see if it works?

- Change the "Delay before sending DTMF?" to 3 or 4.
- Make the call from addressbook (No need to change the number).
- When you see the message "pppp12345 sent as DTMF code", dial 1.

I have not tested this because, none of the calling cards I use require a prefix.
123456789 will be the Calling Card number not the person he's trying to call.
 
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scifi.guy/ epohcj, thanks for the quick replies.

I am unable to set up the Calling Card Number with a p and 1 at the end as suggested by epohcj because non-numerical input is not accepted in that field of the application.

I should have mentioned this yesterday, that is the way I have the number set up on my symbian Nokia, If the above is allowed I think this can be solved.

I tried setting the delay to 4 and more and try and dial 1 when the sending DTMF code message comes but that has no effect, since the DTMF seems to get sent with the pauses almost immediately, if you understand what I mean.
 
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pmudgal - Just allowing the calling card number to accept 'p' is not sufficient in this case. The DBus method used to make a call throws an error (invalid number format).

I need to also change the code to handle this properly in Vicar. Will include this change in the next release.
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copy that, will look forward to the next release....
 
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#27
VICaR v0.3 released to extras-devel. Here is the change log.

* Added option to enter prefix before dialing the international number.
* Change DTMF Suffix field into a text field (allows digits, *, # and p only).
* Removed Delay before DTMF field (You can now use the DTMF Prefix field to customize the delay).
* Added DBus interface methods for remote applications to place calls via VICaR.
* Added integration with Crochik's MyContacts application(Thanks to Felipe).

It is now possible to configure VICaR to make skype-out calls. If you are using skype-out, let me know your feedback.
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Originally Posted by scifi.guy View Post
VICaR v0.3 released to extras-devel. Here is the change log.

* Added option to enter prefix before dialing the international number.
* Change DTMF Suffix field into a text field (allows digits, *, # and p only).
* Removed Delay before DTMF field (You can now use the DTMF Prefix field to customize the delay).
* Added DBus interface methods for remote applications to place calls via VICaR.
* Added integration with Crochik's MyContacts application(Thanks to Felipe).

It is now possible to configure VICaR to make skype-out calls. If you are using skype-out, let me know your feedback.
Just release new version of MyContacts and the integration with VICaR seems to work really well.

Also tested placing skypeout calls and it worked just fine. My settings:
Prefix before DTMF tone: 2p
Suffix after DTMF tone: #p2

The "p2" in the suffix is to skip Skype's "you dialed this number before. Would you like to add to your... " question.
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#29
Sorry it took me long to get back to you about your post the "Call Routing Manager" idea thread. I think it might make sense to add my ideas into this application as you have most of the framework already there. The only difference would be, rather than a per contact setting , this would be system wide setting, which would still work looking at the way ViCaR works.
Here is what I am thinking:
1. Add new tabs to ViCar. So the first tab is Basic. Add something called a "priority" to that tab. This would be a multiple drop boxes in which for 1 you can select SIP, 2 can be Skype, 3 can be Calling Card, 4 can be cellular etc. So effectively what you are telling the system is what order to follow for completing the international call. Like if no Skype account is configured, it doesnt show up in the dropdown box. But if the account is configured and the device does not have internet connection (WiFi or 3G), the sw picks CC.
2. Rename the advanced tab to something like "Calling Card". Keep everything else same, it works!
3. Add a new tab for SIP where the user can specify similar things like prefix, wait, suffix etc. It would be good if we can have multiple SIP account support here, but lets start with one.
4. The next tab would be skype, with same fields like prefix and suffux. The post above already has it working with Skype, so I will leave it to you to decide if you want to make skype and google talk support more explicit or keep it the way it already is.
5. Add a new tab for cellular, so that the user can disallow all international calls on cellular network (most common scenario) and instead has to explicitly state what country codes are to be dialed through cellular, so that we dont end up with huge bills.Like by default everything would disabled on cellular, if I want to enable US calls, I add a +1 to the list.

Now, after all is said and done, here is how I think it would work.
Supposing I am trying to call someone in UK with number +44xxxxxxxxxx . I have my astersik server, Nymgo, skype, calling card and direct cellular call. I dial the number, now the system looks whats my first priority and if that is reachable, if yes, complete the call else fall back to the second one and so on.

I did not want to reinvent the wheel and when I thought about it, it seemed as if you already had a lot of pieces working and with slight modification, this could work with system level settings rather than per contact settings.

Let me know what you guys think?

Last edited by activemind; 2010-07-12 at 22:54. Reason: fixed some typo
 

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#30
@activemind - Now I understand why you took so long to reply to my post

Regarding the priority and system-based approach, I'd really like to hear from other users to understand the usability. So far the most common request I got was the support for multiple profiles and routing based on country codes.

For example, all numbers starting with +1 will go through CC-A, those starting with +44 will go though CC-B (or a skype-out number) etc. For each country code, user can select a profile that they prefer and when a call is placed, system will automatically use that profile to make the call.

I haven't thought about integrating SIP based services so far. But it should be possible to initiate SIP calls using Dbus signals from VICaR.

These are just my random thoughts. We'll get into more details once more people join in the discussion.
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