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2010-06-23
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Was wondering: will the iPhone 4 help us with mobile sites? Most mobile sites are designed for low res screens and are therefore not so easy to use on the N900 (in my experience). Will the higher res iPhone mean redesigns for these sites that will make them better for N900 users? Or will all the older iPhones hinder this. [Not to mention the higher res Android phones.]
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2010-06-23
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I would say no. A site that targets the iPhone browser is really a dumbed down iteration of a full website. The N900 has the advantage of being able to render the site(s) as a desktop would.
If anything, the idea that sites are forcing the N900 to mobile/iPhone sites is honestly upsetting since it can display darn near everything Firefox can - save Flash 10.x that is.
I don't think it'll help N900 owners.
If anything, the idea that sites are forcing the N900 to mobile/iPhone sites is honestly upsetting since it can display darn near everything Firefox can - save Flash 10.x that is.
I don't think it'll help N900 owners.
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2010-06-23
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I think Jobs has a pretty set idea of how interaction on a 3.5" screen must be finger friendly. The extra pixels will probably be used to just beautify the current elements without pushing any of them smaller.
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2010-06-23
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Originally Posted by gerbick
I really appreciate the ability of the N900 browser, but I also appreciate mobile versions of sites. Sometimes it's just quicker to load, quicker to review large amounts of info. Some sites I have both bookmarked. And some people without an unlimited 3g plan are helped by mobile pages. So it matters, whether it suits you or not. But mobile pages intended for the old iPhone (and many Android phones with similar res) have fonts that are just too small, and annoying at times. So I am hoping...
I would say no. A site that targets the iPhone browser is really a dumbed down iteration of a full website. The N900 has the advantage of being able to render the site(s) as a desktop would.
If anything, the idea that sites are forcing the N900 to mobile/iPhone sites is honestly upsetting since it can display darn near everything Firefox can - save Flash 10.x that is.
I don't think it'll help N900 owners.
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2010-06-23
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My whole existence has has waited for the moment where my mobile device can access the real web. Not the other way around like on my Palm PDA. My n810 was the first to do it.
One thing I never anticipated was the high resolution on the n900, it is a bit of a problem in the content is too small, (not the case with the n810 800 x 480 4.1" screen)
Now the iphone with over 325dpi comes along and we start taking about separate web pages for mobile devises again. why? not because of any technical limitation but because we have gone and added too much resolution to the darn screen! from a designer with 20 20 vision around 225 dpi for a mobile screen resolution is bordering on small.
Like loud music channelled directly into your ear canal causes heiring loss, so too does staring at a single pixels @ 326dpi on a screens of 3.5"a at 6" from you face for a prolonged time cause vision impairment.
Last edited by timwatt; 2010-06-23 at 23:44.
One thing I never anticipated was the high resolution on the n900, it is a bit of a problem in the content is too small, (not the case with the n810 800 x 480 4.1" screen)
Now the iphone with over 325dpi comes along and we start taking about separate web pages for mobile devises again. why? not because of any technical limitation but because we have gone and added too much resolution to the darn screen! from a designer with 20 20 vision around 225 dpi for a mobile screen resolution is bordering on small.
Like loud music channelled directly into your ear canal causes heiring loss, so too does staring at a single pixels @ 326dpi on a screens of 3.5"a at 6" from you face for a prolonged time cause vision impairment.
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https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8343
the bugs below are important to the overall success of the n900 so please vote.
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6892
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8343
Last edited by timwatt; 2010-06-23 at 23:44.
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2010-06-24
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Originally Posted by timwatt
Can is good. Having to? Not good IMO. I'd like to do both. That's all I am saying. I thought reading text on the old iPhone was lame because text was very pixelated (I do have 20/15 vision). It's one of the reasons I loved the N900 when I got it. But I don't always want to look at microscopic text.
My whole existence has has waited for the moment where my mobile device can access the real web.
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2010-06-25
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Originally Posted by timwatt
I am sure you have a credible source for this tidbit of scientific brilliance.
Like loud music channelled directly into your ear canal causes heiring loss, so too does staring at a single pixels @ 326dpi on a screens of 3.5"a at 6" from you face for a prolonged time cause vision impairment.
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2010-06-25
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Originally Posted by timwatt
actually it's not the resolution that's the problem. it's the fact that both web designers and browsers forgot how to properly deal with different resolutions.
One thing I never anticipated was the high resolution on the n900, it is a bit of a problem in the content is too small, (not the case with the n810 800 x 480 4.1" screen)
Now the iphone with over 325dpi comes along and we start taking about separate web pages for mobile devises again. why? not because of any technical limitation but because we have gone and added too much resolution to the darn screen! from a designer with 20 20 vision around 225 dpi for a mobile screen resolution is bordering on small.
a browser is meant to know the real dpi value of the screen and render pages accordingly - which, of course, means that web designers give meaningful information about the size of screen elements.
in reality, browsers use a fake dpi value and web designers use pixels (!!!) as a unit for font sizes etc. - this has to fail.