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Originally Posted by ysss
Magical. Really. I'm not just saying these extra things to get my post long enough.
WTF
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2010-07-02
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Originally Posted by ysss
I would still take a resistive screen over that any day. One of the MeeGo tablets was demoed on a resistive screen that does 5 finger multitouch.
WTF:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgTcyjzXfTg
Pressure sensitivity & palm rejection on iPad's capacitive multitouch screen.
(Well technically they identify the shape of the contact area to react only to the 'stylus' and measure it to determine the 'pressure')
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2010-07-02
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Lol no flash on a huge *** brick is no internet at all haahhaha
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#85
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Originally Posted by bayernhan
quoted for posterity
Lol no flash on a huge *** brick is no internet at all haahhaha
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1. No Flash is a plus, not a minus (in my humple opinion). Flash cannot be called open standard at all.
2. Closed OS is a minus for a developer, for anybody who wants a real computer. But for somebody who wants a working phone/toy/book-reader, without any hacks and mods, closed OS is better: it guards against viruses and other problems. That's why well-polished Apple products are popular: they work as intended, are harmonious, and don't require DIY skills.
3. I hope that the people who use iPad and iPhone will complain to websites: please, give Flash-free version of the page --- while the people who use non-Apple products will develop their own websites/applications against Flash (like Firefox for mobile, which introduces better standards support).
2. Closed OS is a minus for a developer, for anybody who wants a real computer. But for somebody who wants a working phone/toy/book-reader, without any hacks and mods, closed OS is better: it guards against viruses and other problems. That's why well-polished Apple products are popular: they work as intended, are harmonious, and don't require DIY skills.
3. I hope that the people who use iPad and iPhone will complain to websites: please, give Flash-free version of the page --- while the people who use non-Apple products will develop their own websites/applications against Flash (like Firefox for mobile, which introduces better standards support).
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Heh.
I agree that Flash is yet another walled garden (though one with many doors connecting it to different platforms and they do give free maps to the curators), and we'd be better off if there's an open standard that can replace it.
My main problem with Apple vs Flash debacle is that Jobs is making use of his control over the iOS platform to censor what's in/out of his ecosystem. Good thing that this time it's somewhat in alignment with our interests. But I would still prefer if a new standard dukes it out with Flash in a free market and wins it on its own merit.
With iPhone/iPad's marketshare and demonstrated buying power, there's no need for them to 'complain' to websites..
I agree that Flash is yet another walled garden (though one with many doors connecting it to different platforms and they do give free maps to the curators), and we'd be better off if there's an open standard that can replace it.
My main problem with Apple vs Flash debacle is that Jobs is making use of his control over the iOS platform to censor what's in/out of his ecosystem. Good thing that this time it's somewhat in alignment with our interests. But I would still prefer if a new standard dukes it out with Flash in a free market and wins it on its own merit.
With iPhone/iPad's marketshare and demonstrated buying power, there's no need for them to 'complain' to websites..
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Originally Posted by Wikiwide
And that's your opinion. You belong to those 3% of customers who don't care. Mostly conservative developers or geeks who have access to many different options.
1. No Flash is a plus, not a minus (in my humple opinion). Flash cannot be called open standard at all.
2. Closed OS is a minus for a developer, for anybody who wants a real computer. But for somebody who wants a working phone/toy/book-reader, without any hacks and mods, closed OS is better: it guards against viruses and other problems. That's why well-polished Apple products are popular: they work as intended, are harmonious, and don't require DIY skills.
. Apple = good marketing. What is eye candy works for marketing as well. Take every single device to compare to competition and you will see there is creative thinking involved on much higher level.3. I hope that the people who use iPad and iPhone will complain to websites: please, give Flash-free version of the page --- while the people who use non-Apple products will develop their own websites/applications against Flash (like Firefox for mobile, which introduces better standards support).
From developer point of view? I have more trouble (processor usage) to scroll some simple html websites rather than full screen flash websites. Is all about developer quality as well. Flash was relatively easy to learn and bring many non-tech guys to the platform who begin deal with scripts. Sometimes result is dramatic you can say. HTML or Java Script is not easy? Its even easier I think, and everyone can put some junk to the web no matter what technology are you using.
Personally I think, if more those conservative developers could even try to develop something in Flash or HTML. Just one time. You quickly change your mind and became quality flash developer. The problem is most of people complain without get his hands dirty.
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2010-07-05
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Originally Posted by ysss
It make me sad that you so often using Close Standard regarding to Flash as equal to Apple practice. There is Huge difference.
Heh.
I agree that Flash is yet another walled garden (though one with many doors connecting it to different platforms and they do give free maps to the curators), and we'd be better off if there's an open standard that can replace it.
My main problem with Apple vs Flash debacle is that Jobs is making use of his control over the iOS platform to censor what's in/out of his ecosystem. Good thing that this time it's somewhat in alignment with our interests. But I would still prefer if a new standard dukes it out with Flash in a free market and wins it on its own merit.
With iPhone/iPad's marketshare and demonstrated buying power, there's no need for them to 'complain' to websites..
Action Script is open - industry standard language
Flex SDK - is open source
Tools - there is many different way to develop flash content for free
Flash Player - is closed but free of charge for users. The restrictions are ONLY for distributors
How does it affect customer?
Ok let's put this that way
Action Script Maemo is open - source OS
Flex SDK - QT is open source
Tools - there is many different way to develop flash Maemo content for free
Flash Player Device/Hardware - is closed but free of charge you need to buy it for users. The restrictions are ONLY for distributors
Using this scheme put Apple product here
Ok I'll try
Language is open- industry standard but you have to stick to Apple rules. Cross compilers are not welcome.
SDK - is Closed source and you have to pay a fee to get into this world.
Tools - there is ONLY one way to develop content, Apple way non-free
Device - Device/Hardware - is closed
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I do think the iPad is pointless, overhyped, and overpriced however saying that not one single device is going to kill the Internet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgTcyjzXfTg
Pressure sensitivity & palm rejection on iPad's capacitive multitouch screen.
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