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#61
Originally Posted by RobertHall View Post
i think eldar was nokia's leak guy...many of his screen shots showed OPK as a contact as well as the fact that NO ONE else in the world has the sort of "contacts" he has...i mean no other blog could get into contact with "inside leakers"???...
no **** sherlock?!?

does your firmware prevent adding contacts named such as OPK?

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Originally Posted by bugelrex View Post
The problem is that Nokia still thinks its 2005 and there are no comparable competitors.
the problem is that you can turn 180 degrees in couple seconds, big companies must turn more slowly. what do you think Qt was purchased for?
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Concerning the theft issue: I think if Murtazin still has the phones, then he is a thief. Also, he says on that terrible TechCrunch video that he doesn't have the phones. This would then make him a liar as well. How he actually could have the phones (to keep) is beyond me, however. I mean how do you get the phone out of the company with nobody coming looking for it? And how can it all be this one guy? I also feel that there's the real inside man that Nokia's after

Concerning his reviews: I think Murtazin has been pretty "correct" in his reviews. I think when he bashes Symbian^3, then he is absolutely correct about a lot of things, eventhough they are only his opinions. For eg. Sym^3 isn't spectacularly reworked, and this is also what he said. Who disagrees with this? And after our experiences with firmware updates to S60 phones, not to mention PR1.2., who here honestly thinks that the final version of the Sym^3 on N8 will be somehow radically different to the one we see on the prototypes? Is Nokia known for frequent and high-quality soft/firmware updates?

Concerning the talk about good Nokia phones: I think Nokia got away with the 5800XM because people were still unsure of how well Nokia was keeping up at this time. The 5800XM did its job, it was something completely new from Nokia and it wasn't expensive. In a way its maybe Nokia's best effort to understand the common phone user. It was only the N97 that tipped the scales and the dislike spread like wildfire. I think in this sector Murtazin has done a good job of shaking Nokia up by saying what's what. He's dissed the phones, the public has gotten their hands on the phones and then agreed with Murtazin.
 
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IMO, Nokia are making themselves look pretty silly and I don't think this kind of tactic suits them. If they should take legal action against anybody, I would suggest they start at Symbian's door

BTW, Eldar is the reason I bought a n900.
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Originally Posted by ossipena View Post
the problem is that you can turn 180 degrees in couple seconds, big companies must turn more slowly. what do you think Qt was purchased for?
Amazingly enough, Nokia turns so slowly that they have to rush and release half-finished devices (N97, N900). Nokia's problem appear to be internal politics, poor management that cannot be fired or lack of ability to attract top software developers.

On the plus side, Nokia's hardware-design is top-notch, the N9 form factor is close to perfection...absolutely gorgeous!
 

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When I think of Nokia I think of the military R&D. Different factions vying for power, trying to get money to develop their own product. The end result, money is split or projects get ignored or malnourished.
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They're maemo and MeeGo...

"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
 
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Sorry for breaking in like this fellas. I've been thinking about this since I first saw this thread pop up... actually, I'm kind of amazed the thread is still going.

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So as a comment to the OP...

Isn't this Boldar dude a member or suttin?

Shouldn't he be in this thread by now?

Someone call this dude up.
Inquiring minds want to know...

What brought him around last time?
Did he Google his own clang self to find out who was talking about what he did or said; or was it because someone contacted "The most interesting Man in the World" as I recall seeing him called here in the past.

Maybe Nokia and perhaps the police just want to question him because they find him interesting?



I betcha if we post his name three times, one post after another with no other info and without interruption he'll appear in this thread like Betelgeuse or suttin'.

It might be worth a try.
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I think that since he is under a law-suit, speaking about this matter to people isn't going to be something his lawyers are willing to let him do. I think this is the reason why there wasn't much of content in what he said to TechCrunch besides that had nothing and knew of nothing.
 
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Originally Posted by bugelrex View Post
Amazingly enough, Nokia turns so slowly that they have to rush and release half-finished devices (N97, N900). Nokia's problem appear to be internal politics, poor management that cannot be fired or lack of ability to attract top software developers.

On the plus side, Nokia's hardware-design is top-notch, the N9 form factor is close to perfection...absolutely gorgeous!
now you are mixing two completely different things....
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What do you guys think of this analysis:

http://mynokiablog.com/2010/07/12/el...#comment-19950

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I think, some things should be cleared. For a foreigner, it is quite hard to judge on the situation, but I am russian, and I have been reading Murtazins site for 5 years. I have a much wider judgement on this issue, being able to read both the articles on the official Mobile-Review and his blog. Also there are lots of alternative opinions.
There is one more thing, that makes my judgment more relevant. I am a layer in Russia, so I can provide some info about the legal situation.
Let’s get to the facts:
1) Murtazin tells us that Nokia is spreading false info. Currently he is appealing to the fact, that Nokia calls him a blogger. Actually according to russian law it is correct, because mobile-review.com is not registered as a source of mass information. According to russian laws, only a person working for a source of mass information can appeal to a journalist’s status. Without being employed in a source of mass information, being a member of a journalists society he is still just a blogger. His site in legal terms is just a personal web page. This means that he cannot legally protect his sources.
2) Nokia has requested to start a criminal investigation against Murtazin. This means, that summarizing the definition of the criminal act is a job for legal authorities. Nokia has just put a request on that. He is being accused of violating the Criminal Code of Russia, specifically in breaking the law prohibiting collection of private corporate information which is classified as trade secrets.
3) His contacts with his informant on learning info about N8 is illegal, because he was well informed about the status of the info classified as trade secret. Reproduction of this info to the audience is illegal, as it was well known to Murtazin, that it consisted a trade secret. Murtazin received prototypes of Nokia legally before, so he was well informed, that any info about them is a trade secret.
4) His conclussions were actually misleading even analyzing the prototype. He made such things before – a while ago he was bashing Sony Ericsson X10 in his blog, but it wasn’t reproduced massively and wide audience didn’t see that. Actual work of the final product was quite fine.
5) The problem that he is not a journalist according to russian law, as I commented, so there is no actual connection between him and journalists ethics.
6) It is hard to jusdge, if he is a Samsung consultant, but the massive amount of ads for them, shows that he is valuable partner for them.
7) As Nokia N8 is being given to some people through legal procedures, and with abiding Non disclosure agreements according to russian law it is illegal for a person to give away trade secrets, if a person was informed or was able to understand, that the info is a trade secret. Murtazin told us many times, that he is perfectly informed about security measures about prototypes.
8) Murtazin lies about relations with Nokia corp. His relations got worse, when he didn’t receive a contract with Nokia to support LiveJournal society of Nokia in russian web. Since then he completely changed his policy about Nokia, bashing it hard. Almost the same happened with SE before – same bashing of products all the way, but with less world spreading.
9) Nokia didn’t put revenge on Murtazin – he just violated russian laws on trade secrets in Nokia’s opinion, so they are rightful to protect their trade secrets legally. Murtazin would probably be sentenced to a fine, which is not such a hard punishment. But as it a violation of Criminal Code he would become a criminal, which would give him a bad reputation
10) He is spreading an info which can easily be considered as a effort to mislead the investigation.
11) Some bloggers in russia, being outraged by Murtzin’s constant lies are gathering valuable inf on this story
 

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