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I once had a fiend that said to me why would you ever buy an Audi (with respect to German cars). If you want luxury go for a Merc.
If you want a sporty number go for a BMW or Porsche. Seems to be the same for Android to me. If you want Apps why not get a fruit phone? If you want openess....
If app's were important in the Open source world Linux, would have died a long time ago, I mean not even 1% of the desktop market WTF. Sure it would be nice to have shed loads of apps, but for me standards and choice are more important, and Open source keeps all the proprietary companies honest. Nokia will always get my £500 every 18 months as long as they continue to invest upstream.
If you want a sporty number go for a BMW or Porsche. Seems to be the same for Android to me. If you want Apps why not get a fruit phone? If you want openess....
If app's were important in the Open source world Linux, would have died a long time ago, I mean not even 1% of the desktop market WTF. Sure it would be nice to have shed loads of apps, but for me standards and choice are more important, and Open source keeps all the proprietary companies honest. Nokia will always get my £500 every 18 months as long as they continue to invest upstream.
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2010-07-10
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Well tbh a standard Linux distro is loaded with quality productivity applications, not so much fart apps and 3d games which the masses somehow seem to like. Debian has around 20k applications in the repositories.
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Originally Posted by Nathraiben
Eh, I don't know.. I'm kind of fed up by Nokia's "support on a shoe string". With the combination of driver lock outs, strategically placed close bits, short term supports, half-@ssed 3rd party strategy.. they're pretty effective in shutting down devices.
Hehe, I would say there's still Intel - but after the GMA500 fiasco I'd rather go with Nokia...
Maybe I'm a bit dewy-eyed, but I'm still pretty optimistic when it comes to MeeGo. Other than the cherry bomb, Nokia shows signs of finally steering into the right direction (they are finally putting more focus on 3rd party implementations instead of keeping everything to themselves just to drop it half a year later), and I have high hopes for the Symbian-Qt-MeeGo combination.
If I'm a reasonable person, I'd say they were doing all this with a single purpose of planned obsolescence...
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Originally Posted by mikec
Worst car analogy ever. It's not too late for an edit or delete.
I once had a fiend that said to me why would you ever buy an Audi (with respect to German cars). If you want luxury go for a Merc.
If you want a sporty number go for a BMW or Porsche. Seems to be the same for Android to me. If you want Apps why not get a fruit phone? If you want openess....
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As a former Audi 80 owner (1989 model) I can only agree.
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Originally Posted by msa
The openness of an OS has nothing to do with the availability (or lack) of applications. That has everything to do with someone providing an avenue by which they can be sold, and Nokia's sloppy execution of Ovi is the main culprit.
openness isnt always a plus. it sure isnt a minus, but what are the advantages that we as the maemo-community in general (and the n900-community specifically) have?
a freakin lot of half-baked hobby-apps that dont work. now i dont want to disrespect the free time and effort all the developers put in their apps, but to me as the consumer, unfinished apps arent helpful to me.
and now take a look at the android-apps. a lot of them are much more polished and professional. a friend of mine (owning a htc magic) once complained to me that he is getting updates to his apps every day.
i would LOVE when i would get an update once a week or month.
opensource sure is a nice thing, but it doesnt make maemo much better than not-so-open OS'es like android.
i guess there are much more private free developers on android as there are with maemo. there has to be a reason for that.
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2010-07-10
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Apple XCode existed before the Apple iPhone. The SDK was necessary to support development on the iPhone and iPod Touch once it came out.
The API was so well-documented that it's extended to stuff like Unity3D, Visual Studio .NET, and other IDE's - which accelerated adoption.
That last part is what's wrong with Qt imho. It's been around for ages; however I can't just open up TextMate or XCode or Visual Studio or Komodo ActiveState or Coda and start coding off the bat.
The API was so well-documented that it's extended to stuff like Unity3D, Visual Studio .NET, and other IDE's - which accelerated adoption.
That last part is what's wrong with Qt imho. It's been around for ages; however I can't just open up TextMate or XCode or Visual Studio or Komodo ActiveState or Coda and start coding off the bat.
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Originally Posted by gerbick
But you can open up Qt Creator, which is the Qt equivalent. What is missing from Qt that the other platforms have? And in the end you can't just start throwing code at things, otherwise you end up in a pinch and rewriting stuff (I know this from experience.)
That last part is what's wrong with Qt imho. It's been around for ages; however I can't just open up TextMate or XCode or Visual Studio or Komodo ActiveState or Coda and start coding off the bat.
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Yeah, right after I hit send, I remembered Qt Creator.
I just never quite liked it - seems slow to me on my Mac whereas it's not so slow on my Linux box - which is much lesser spec'd.
I just never quite liked it - seems slow to me on my Mac whereas it's not so slow on my Linux box - which is much lesser spec'd.
My experience with the applications on Maemo is that there is a lot and that they work great. I can't really think of a single thing (apart from the game Ancient domains of mystery) I'm really missing. I receive updates several times a week btw, maybe you need to enable the testing and devel repos if you want to update more.
Seriously they way you put it, it really looks like disrespect.