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Posts: 142 | Thanked: 8 times | Joined on Jul 2010
#51
Originally Posted by Joorin View Post
It is confusing when you don't seem to understand what "locking a file" means and refuse to give more details regarding what level of protection would be needed.

I have suggested several solutions, including creating special directories, password protected archives and encrypted files but you refuse to comment on these.

How am I, or any other developer, supposed to understand what you actually want if you refuse to go into detail (more than "it should lock files, like, so, like, they're like locked")?

Asking good questions helps when wanting good answers. While preparing to ask that good question, your research will reveal more details helping you make your question even better.

If creating a directory named "Private" somewhere solves your problem, fine, but if you want something else, do get into the details. I'm not spending time on this forum to act as your on demand coder, but I do try to help if I can so please lay off the "You started by being rude.".
seems like we started on the wrong foot...

so this is what i'm basically looking for

what u said regarding archiving the files is good....but for simple users an App that locks the files/SMS with a PIN from the user will be more good...
creating the Private directories will not solve the issue as u alreday said....

so what can be done to achieve this?
 
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#52
Originally Posted by Joorin View Post
It is confusing when you don't seem to understand what "locking a file" means and refuse to give more details regarding . While preparing to ask that good question, your research will reveal more details helping you make your question even better.

If creating a directory named "Private" somewhere solves your problem, fine, but if you want something else, do get into the details. I'm not spending time on this forum to act as your on demand coder, but I do try to help if I can so please lay off the "You started by being rude.".
Do check my 1st post for what i/many users really want....
i had xplained it in simple steps
 
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#53
[QUOTE=s33;750253][QUOTE=Joorin;750234]
I've actually spent some time now trying to help you to ask questions in a better way. But you continue to ignore the help, ignore the suggestions and refuse to answer simple questions.


Really?
Does any of these questions make sense to u?thats not how u ask questions in a beter way....its more like sarcasm to me

- Serious person who steals your device
- The government (in the shape of border control)
- The government (in the shape of the police)
- The government (in the shape of a special branch)


u said u were trying to help me all these time with ur questions above....i dont think so...
What you quote above is not a list of questions, it's a list of potential attackers. If you indicate that you actually only want to protect your files from a nosy stranger, locking your device or hiding your data in a special directory might be enough.

But, on the other hand, if you actually want privacy that would keep border control at bay, you might want to look into encrypted file systems.

So, by actually telling us what kind of privacy you want, you help us suggest a proper solution.

See, it's that simple.
 
Posts: 142 | Thanked: 8 times | Joined on Jul 2010
#54
[QUOTE=Joorin;750264][QUOTE=s33;750253]
Originally Posted by Joorin View Post
I've actually spent some time now trying to help you to ask questions in a better way. But you continue to ignore the help, ignore the suggestions and refuse to answer simple questions.


What you quote above is not a list of questions, it's a list of potential attackers. If you indicate that you actually only want to protect your files from a nosy stranger, locking your device or hiding your data in a special directory might be enough.

But, on the other hand, if you actually want privacy that would keep border control at bay, you might want to look into encrypted file systems.

So, by actually telling us what kind of privacy you want, you help us suggest a proper solution.

See, it's that simple.
can u elaborate on encrypting file systems????

step by step procedure????
 
Posts: 92 | Thanked: 17 times | Joined on Feb 2010
#55
Call me a dreamer, but...how about a cross-application option, something like:
a. There is a application called, say "SafeHide"
b. There is an option/dialog menu in Conversation, Gallery, Notes, (you name it) which could give a user simple (I think simplicity is the point) set of options, e.g "Hide and encrypt this (Message, Pictures, Note, etc)" right there on the spot
c. There is an option to get to those encrypted files from the "SafeHide" (or whatever) interface and:
1. Browse them there
2. Restore them to there mother apps.
 
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#56
Originally Posted by s33 View Post
what u said regarding archiving the files is good....but for simple users an App that locks the files/SMS with a PIN from the user will be more good...
I agree on using a password protected archive as it might be a good compromise. This would then make the password into the "lock", which might very well be a PIN (as in numbers).

This would work on files, but since SMS messages are stored in a database, things get a bit more complicated with those. A suggestion might be to try to extract them from the database and have a separate viewer for those extra sensitive messages. These messages could then be saved in their own database that's in turn protected in an archive as any other file.

so what can be done to achieve this?
For files:
First, pick an archive format that's competent enough and, preferably, has been ported to the N900 already.

Secondly, flesh out the details of how to select files to protect, where to store them and how passwords should be handled.

Thirdly, get on building a GUI.

For SMSs:
First, have a look at the SMS database that's used.

Secondly, try to find out if there is an API to be used to extract the messages.

Thirdly, decide on how these extracted message should be presented when you want to look at them.

Fourthly, integrate this into the GUI from the previous TODO list.
 
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#57
Originally Posted by Reeby View Post
Call me a dreamer, but...how about a cross-application option, something like:
a. There is a application called, say "SafeHide"
b. There is an option/dialog menu in Conversation, Gallery, Notes, (you name it) which could give a user simple (I think simplicity is the point) set of options, e.g "Hide and encrypt this (Message, Pictures, Note, etc)" right there on the spot
c. There is an option to get to those encrypted files from the "SafeHide" (or whatever) interface and:
1. Browse them there
2. Restore them to there mother apps.
hmmm...that seems GOOD

But if we have an APP that makes the converstion App to actually hide the contents of the message when it arrives on ur phone it'll be good....u'll have to give the PIN to read the content

coz if someone is using ur n900 and a sms arrives at the same time he will be able to see the content before it minimizes...so the whole security thing is lost...right?

about the files/photos-what u said is good.(Pressing on a photo/file/video pops up an submenu which includes lock/hide feature along with the already available options like copy,cut,move)

what do you think?
 
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#58
Originally Posted by Joorin View Post
I agree on using a password protected archive as it might be a good compromise. This would then make the password into the "lock", which might very well be a PIN (as in numbers).

This would work on files, but since SMS messages are stored in a database, things get a bit more complicated with those. A suggestion might be to try to extract them from the database and have a separate viewer for those extra sensitive messages. These messages could then be saved in their own database that's in turn protected in an archive as any other file.



For files:
First, pick an archive format that's competent enough and, preferably, has been ported to the N900 already.

Secondly, flesh out the details of how to select files to protect, where to store them and how passwords should be handled.

Thirdly, get on building a GUI.

For SMSs:
First, have a look at the SMS database that's used.

Secondly, try to find out if there is an API to be used to extract the messages.

Thirdly, decide on how these extracted message should be presented when you want to look at them.

Fourthly, integrate this into the GUI from the previous TODO list.
thanks man...
that realy helpfull.....it sounded like very simple upto some Xtend....But the problem is i'm not a Linux guy....

But if some developer sees what u just said they will surely come up with something....u described like a simple/good Algorithm which just need to be implemented.

By any chance are you a Linux guru???

Damn this App would be great....

By the way have you checked my 1st post?
 
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#59
I would very much like an app like his. I'm working with people and often get secrets via sms and e-mail to my phone - which I most often can't delete due to the need to have the messages stored for future reference. To protect my clients' privacy this would be golden.

I also work as a teacher and the n900 has very many uses in the classroom, and I regulary let students use it, periodic system etc.

I think you all can see why this app would be great for me.
 
Posts: 92 | Thanked: 17 times | Joined on Feb 2010
#60
Originally Posted by s33 View Post
But if we have an APP that makes the converstion App to actually hide the contents of the message when it arrives on ur phone it'll be good....u'll have to give the PIN to read the content
Agree. That's not even better it's safer ..just like it's supposed to be when it comes to Conversations 'cause they just come without your involvement.
So, dreaming further the line:
d. The App has a option for Conversations where:
1. You can choose a Sender and the option to encrypt all messages from him/her.
2. You can choose ALL Senders for the same option.
3. All the above, again, are incorporated in Conversation pop-up menu interface (this way you minimize your having to open the app itself every time you need to add/delete a sender/s )
 
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