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2010-07-15
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2010-07-15
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2010-07-15
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2010-07-16
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Get another one while you can, if you encounter the same problems the problem lies between the chair and the N900!
Are you sure you haven't enabled extras testing or devel because if you have tried BlessN900 you have them enabled. If you have enabled either of them maybe something from there is causing your broblems.
sounds like you have something installed that causes this, if not then have you transferred any media to it that may contain a virus although its linux rather than windows or mac a virus targeted at them can cause random problems for you so either scan all your media that you transferred and all the emails or remove all downloads that aren't from the stock catalogs.
if it is down to a virus you got then you'll have to re flash, make sure you use upto date os and emmc
Do you use a SIM?
You must be very unlucky if this happened to you twice. After flashing are you reinstalling your previous software? Maybe one of them is causing this. And try booting without a microsd. Try flashing with different versions of PR 1.2 (global, UK etc)
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Yes, I do use a SIM. Do you think it could be because of a bad SIM card? I have been using the same SIM in my old phone for about six years now; I'm not sure I want to change it because I would have to change my phone number (among other hassles that outweigh the disadvantage of just not using a N900).
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2010-07-16
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@YoDude:
Yes, I do use a SIM. Do you think it could be because of a bad SIM card? I have been using the same SIM in my old phone for about six years now; I'm not sure I want to change it because I would have to change my phone number (among other hassles that outweigh the disadvantage of just not using a N900).
- Is it because I created a symlink from ~/ to ~/MyDocs/.documents? "~/" is on a Linux filesystem (ext3 or ext2 or whatever) while ~/MyDocs/.documents is on vfat, so maybe that blew it up. But if I recall correctly, the error happened even without the symlink.
There seems to be a fatal flaw in the N900! Please help me figure out how I can avoid having to return my N900.
I keep having an error on boot-up where, after the Nokia logo comes and goes, the flashing dot sequence continues indefinitely, for hours; boot-up is never completed. The N900 becomes unusable. While in this state, if I try:
- tapping on/off button: flashing dots pause for a moment, then continue flashing forever as before
- holding on/off button: device switches off; but when I switch it back on, after the Nokia logo we're back to the forever flashing dots
- taking out the battery and replacing: same as holding on/off button
There is no problem with "lock screen and keys": screen turns off, N900 looks just like it's off, etc. except it will still accept phone calls, etc., and I can "turn it back on" (I guess the correct term is "unlock screen and keys") and it works. But after I've used a new N900 for a few days, if I actually turn it off (hold on/off button until device powers down), then I get this problem on boot-up.
I tried to avoid turning it off/on, but there were a few times when I had to reboot:
- sometimes installing certain applications (like BlessN900) requires a reboot
- the system becomes unstable: it responds more and more slowly (at times taking 30 seconds to respond to a tap), or the Settings program will spit out some error message and refuse to edit profiles
- the N900 is designed that, to insert/remove a SIM card, I have to take out the battery, forcing a reboot. (With the N900 so unreliable, I need to insert/remove the SIM to make calls with an old cell phone.)
This is what I've tried:
- returned the N900 to the store for a refund, got another N900 (both were brand new). This boot-up error occurred with both devices.
- updating the firmware to Maemo 5 PR 1.2, via Internet. The error still occurred.
- flashing the firmware
When the N900 goes into this "forever dots" state, there is only one thing I've found which can make it usable again: I have to flash the firmware and the "eMMC" image (I think this is the 25GB memory). (It's not enough just to flash the firmware.) The N900 does respond to putting it into "USB flashing mode" (where you connect via USB to the computer while pressing the 'u' key), and flashing firmware+eMMC results in a blank device, for which the data has to be restored. With my first N900 I did not know how to do this, and had to return it to the store. With my second N900, I have had to flash to overcome this error about 4 times (in the past month).
Unfortunately, this means that when the N900 goes "forever dots" on me, I can't do anything until I can hook it up to my computer with a flasher program, firmware image and eMMC image. It's a bit scary to think that, if my car breaks down on a deserted highway (I commute 90 minutes to work), I might not be able to call for help because my N900 has decided to go into infinite booting. It would defeat the purpose of having a lightweight handheld computer like the N900 if I always have to lug around my laptop so I can flash firmware+eMMC and then restore my contacts list so I can call for help. Thus far I've taken to carrying my old phone around, a Treo 650 --which, by the way, has a hardware reset button that breaks out of any infinite loops. I hope Nokia puts one into their phones in the future.
So, unless I can resolve this problem, I find that I cannot rely on the N900 for a phone. In that case I might as well buy a much cheaper Internet tablet without phone capabilities, or just stick with my aging Treo. The deadline for returning my N900 to the store is coming up in 2 days, and I hope some of the readers here can come up with some insight before I am forced to refund what would otherwise be a very powerful and versatile device because of a bug in the operating system.
Some notes:
- I did not install any software other than from repositories already enabled by default (that is, no extras-devel or extras-testing).
- I tried to isolate which software might be causing the error, by installing/not installing various combinations of software. In particular, I heard that Catorize would trigger a bug when the applications menu was not a flat structure, but the error still occurred without Catorize present.
- this does not seem to be the same error mentioned on other threads where, after the N900 is finished booting up, it reboots. Apparently that error was resolved with the newest version of the firmware.
Last edited by kwtm; 2010-08-10 at 09:29. Reason: mark as solved