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2010-07-17 , 06:49
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#31
Good mov e by Nokia. If apple took their time to call out all these companies then Nokia, RIM, Samsung, HTC has the right to respond.

All this ranting Nokia needs to focus on OS?! what is that about? Which OS? Symbian or Meego? both of which are in transition aka getting more prority
 

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2010-07-17 , 06:54
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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
I wonder if people were this angry with the Nokia e71 when it exhibited the same behavior...

Oh well. They prioritize antenna performance. How about OS and customer support being at least in the top 5 too?
I used my e71 for an year and found out about that afterwards. I quess I didn't cup my phone as default when holding it.
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Originally Posted by nosa101 View Post
Am I the only one that think Nokia has been taking one to many cheap shots at Apple these days?
The gizmodo thing, the phone grip thing and now this. Seems a tad low IMHO. How about focusing on supporting the n900 more
well, what did Apple do with their problem?

took a cheap shot to nokias reception and didn't even demo it (other manufacturers models were demoed though)
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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
Hear, hear about the focusing on N900 more. The cheapshots about what they do and do not concentrate on still doesn't deliver a damn thing new/better to the table. It's just talk... and talk is indeed cheap.

I would love to have seen a secondary N900 that would have worked on AT&T's frequencies in the US. It's not like they don't make those type of radios. Seriously, just pop that out, on the same network as the iPhone and give people true freedom.

Why didn't that happen?

But also... support it better. Bring the next OS to it. Officially.

Instead of talk about antennas. I had to hold my N810 a certain way to get a rapid GPS lock. If my left hand went too high on the back side, I'd lose wi-fi. I've seen the E71 lose signal by gripping it a "certain way". I've also witnessed the iPhone 4 losing signal too. Same for the iPhone 3GS - just hold it upside down in your right hand - it'll drop one bar usually.

So yeah. Cheapshot all day - either way. But damn Nokia. You've had 8 months where you could have brought the N900 to AT&T - head to head challenge. You could have stated that "We'll officially bring MeeGo and not forget our early adopters..." and see how that would have worked in your favor.

You could have said more than "our antennas are better than yours" when honestly most people don't even know what you still sell outside of the cheap *** 6102i and other candy bar phones that are freebies now on contract in the US.

And Apple... I hated almost all that was said today. It just smacks of not saying the truth... y'all goofed.
you are acting like n900 wasn't only for early adopters and nothing more. this thread is only a strong reminder why I took a pause from here, stupid ranting etc.

you all ranters made bad call. live with it.

and **** you all!
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There's a bunch of Whine Farmers in this thread.

Nokia defend themselves against Apple ******** about stickers on phones when none of my Nokias have antennae warning stickers. Stick to the topic at hand and don't use the thread as a reason to mouth off about whatever other issues you have with Nokia.

For the record, I have both an N900 and an iPhone3G and I use both for different purposes. No single device is 100% perfect (yet).

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Originally Posted by ossipena View Post
you are acting like n900 wasn't only for early adopters and nothing more. this thread is only a strong reminder why I took a pause from here, stupid ranting etc.

you all ranters made bad call. live with it.

and **** you all!
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Originally Posted by ossipena View Post
you are acting like n900 wasn't only for early adopters and nothing more. this thread is only a strong reminder why I took a pause from here, stupid ranting etc.

you all ranters made bad call. live with it.

and **** you all!
Blame nokia (& their subsidiary and their marketing partners) for inviting the wrong people to the party.
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Originally Posted by maluka View Post
There's a bunch of Whine Farmers in this thread.

Nokia defend themselves against Apple ******** about stickers on phones when none of my Nokias have antennae warning stickers. Stick to the topic at hand and don't use the thread as a reason to mouth off about whatever other issues you have with Nokia.

For the record, I have both an N900 and an iPhone3G and I use both for different purposes. No single device is 100% perfect (yet).

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amen

nokia defend themselves from apple FUD intended to keep them in the clear after making a really bad design choice.

I find the guy saying the antenna design is good really funny. There is a reason why no-one ever puts an antenna exposed where hands can get at it. Basically a hand holding it greatly alters it's electrical performance, not always badly but always leading to a change that the system has to accomodate. The way apple seem to have got round this is by making them very big - compared to most other mobiles. So it is the exposed antenna that leads to them being so close you can short them. An interesting design maybe, but one that means other compromises need to be made - but putting some coating on it would have worked better
 

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It's just marketing.

It's probably true that every manufacturer probably has more or less the same reception problems, but as the current king of the hill (at least in US), Apple has been taking hit in the media. And apparently it seems, that they still aren't used to being the cover girl of the month. They did everything they could in the press event, blaming others, giving free bumper cases and money-back-quarantee. Does it help? Probably not, as the problem is still there. And the press is greedy.

And Nokia? Well... who is willing to test all the models in the market? Globally? It's true that Nokia has way too many model numbers, but in this case it's actually an advantage. It's pretty safe IMHO for them to publish a statement like they did today.

Other manufacturers will follow, RIM in the first place. It's going to be interesting!
 
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Originally Posted by siperkin View Post
Did any one bother to check the comments on that you tube video, the poster of the clip, say's that the problem turned out to be the AT&T micro cell.
Of course no one did. That whole article was pure rubbish anyways...

Some people seems to be so dumb that they does not understand what's a different between putting some part of your skin (skin contact) to a iphone 4's antenna (a light touch) to get a signal drop OR cover your phone with 2 inches of meat and squeeze it so hard that phonecovers crunch. All this at poor reception with cell tower broken.
 

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