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2010-07-17
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Personally, I find this whole fan-boyism amazing. Hence my bakery-reaction.
For me, I carry an N900 because I want to have the freedom to tweak, break, molder and solder as much as I want, without breaking some silly laws (EULA) imposed on me by the company that sold me the gear and made good money with that. If I buy a phone from Steve Jobs, he will happily take my money, but tell me as well what I can and what I can not do with my purchase. Nokia did not do that and chose a different path. Not necesarily better, but different and more suitable to my personal needs.
I was fully aware (almost fully, I must admit) that there are issues with the N900. Most of them are software matters, but the lack of battery durability, to name one, is a hardware problem, in my view.
For the rest it's up to the user. Nokia has delivered a machine that has almost everything you could possibly ask for out of the box. And after that, it becomes a software matter, meaning the machine is only as good as the end-user has set up the machine. The fact that I am still not able to sync my Evolution contact/calendar records with my N900 shows that I have a lot to learn.
But as far as I know, there has been only one hardware issue with the N900 and that was the usb-port coming loose, with some machines. They got replaced but it was not a design flaw as such. For the majority of machines did not suffer from this and did not have to be replaced. New machines are still being made with that exact same port on the exact same location.
This whole thing with fan-boyism is nothing but the result of some brilliant marketing, a quality, I must admit, Apple certainly has.
In just a few words:
Their slogan "Think different" sells them millions and millions of the same item, without any significant difference whatsoever. Now thát I call ingenious deceit. Rephrased in my own words: They preach individualism but they teach it to the masses.
I bought an expensive N900, because it did not preach anything. Instead it just gave me opportunities.
For me, I carry an N900 because I want to have the freedom to tweak, break, molder and solder as much as I want, without breaking some silly laws (EULA) imposed on me by the company that sold me the gear and made good money with that. If I buy a phone from Steve Jobs, he will happily take my money, but tell me as well what I can and what I can not do with my purchase. Nokia did not do that and chose a different path. Not necesarily better, but different and more suitable to my personal needs.
I was fully aware (almost fully, I must admit) that there are issues with the N900. Most of them are software matters, but the lack of battery durability, to name one, is a hardware problem, in my view.
For the rest it's up to the user. Nokia has delivered a machine that has almost everything you could possibly ask for out of the box. And after that, it becomes a software matter, meaning the machine is only as good as the end-user has set up the machine. The fact that I am still not able to sync my Evolution contact/calendar records with my N900 shows that I have a lot to learn.
But as far as I know, there has been only one hardware issue with the N900 and that was the usb-port coming loose, with some machines. They got replaced but it was not a design flaw as such. For the majority of machines did not suffer from this and did not have to be replaced. New machines are still being made with that exact same port on the exact same location.
This whole thing with fan-boyism is nothing but the result of some brilliant marketing, a quality, I must admit, Apple certainly has.
In just a few words:
Their slogan "Think different" sells them millions and millions of the same item, without any significant difference whatsoever. Now thát I call ingenious deceit. Rephrased in my own words: They preach individualism but they teach it to the masses.
I bought an expensive N900, because it did not preach anything. Instead it just gave me opportunities.
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2010-07-17
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I think it's rather telling that the OP has only been thanked once by someone who has no Nokia device. His profile reads
How can we even take these posters seriously? They just come here to troll.
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Bye bye, Nokia. Nice to meet you.
Yes, I really don't like iPhone!
But I love Apple history.
Android rooted is enough for me.
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2010-07-17
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Originally Posted by geohsia
Agreed but by putting a case on the iPhone4, this issue is moot and the same as with any other cell phone.
Internal and external mean inside / outside the body. The issue with the iPhone is that the antenna not just external but is not covered and exposed.
Contacting / covering the antenna here speaks to the blocking that no one disputes and in this case the phone may increase power to overcome that. Touching an antenna has some affect on any phone. Sure.
The iPhone problem is that they put two antennas two side by side. Because both are bare metal you can make a physical connection with the two through your skin (quality of contact has to do with galvanic skin response). The interference caused by two antennas being shorted can not be overcome by increasing power.
The issue is confusing but very different as some may want you to believe.
There is no question that Nokia does a better job with RF than most, and that is one of the main reasons I have the N900. It really irked me when someone would claim "but it is not a phone". There are issues with the N900 that I wish would be addressed but I am not unhappy with it overall. My wife and daughter both have iPhones and for them that is the best choice as they would not understand or appreciate what the N900 can do. This does not mean one is good and the other is bad, they both have their place and we all have different needs. While I am surprised this issue escaped apple's testing (assuming it really did) I applaud their quick action to remedy it and make customers happy, with a full refund if necessary.
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2010-07-17
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Originally Posted by maluka
i blame nokia for opening this can of worms by making the N900 a phone.
How can we even take these posters seriously? They just come here to troll.
end result was that it dragged in a whole lot of people to this forum that have no interest in the software or policies, only in having the "latest and greatest" to show off how much spending ability they have.
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2010-07-17
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Originally Posted by anthonie
Very well said. And it brought this scene to my mind.
Their slogan "Think different" sells them millions and millions of the same item, without any significant difference whatsoever. Now thát I call ingenious deceit. Rephrased in my own words: They preach individualism but they teach it to the masses.
I bought an expensive N900, because it did not preach anything. Instead it just gave me opportunities.
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2010-07-17
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Originally Posted by GaryHT627
Absolutely. I just didn't like Steve's characterization of the issue WITHOUT the case. I don't like spin, maybe that's why I'm not in marketing anymore. ;-)
Agreed but by putting a case on the iPhone4, this issue is moot and the same as with any other cell phone.
I'm glad that the iPhone is pushing the envelope though. A part of me wishes Nokia would do the same.
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2010-07-17
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first ...apple implements the shariah law on the iOS and now the antenna prob....tsk tsk
also I really don't get why....most people come up with sales figures to prove which is the better device/platform etc..isn't that a logical fallacy? "argumentum ad numerum" ..... why should we worry about who is profiting the most?
and.....don't we all know that the majority is always wrong
also I really don't get why....most people come up with sales figures to prove which is the better device/platform etc..isn't that a logical fallacy? "argumentum ad numerum" ..... why should we worry about who is profiting the most?
and.....don't we all know that the majority is always wrong
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2010-07-17
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Originally Posted by imperiallight
Thats not what I call a design flaw, its a production issue. A design flaw has to be intrisic to the device itself. Some iPhones blow up like a grenade due to manufcturing issues as well.
falling out USB ports...?
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2010-07-17
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Originally Posted by rainmaster
Exactly! Here in UK we have silly programs like XFactor and BigBrother pulling record no of viewers. Does that make them any better a? Nope.
first ...apple implements the shariah law on the iOS and now the antenna prob....tsk tsk
also I really don't get why....most people come up with sales figures to prove which is the better device/platform etc..isn't that a logical fallacy? "argumentum ad numerum" ..... why should we worry about who is profiting the most?
and.....don't we all know that the majority is always wrong
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Contacting / covering the antenna here speaks to the blocking that no one disputes and in this case the phone may increase power to overcome that. Touching an antenna has some affect on any phone. Sure.
The iPhone problem is that they put two antennas two side by side. Because both are bare metal you can make a physical connection with the two through your skin (quality of contact has to do with galvanic skin response). The interference caused by two antennas being shorted can not be overcome by increasing power.
The issue is confusing and not the same as some may want you to believe.
Last edited by geohsia; 2010-07-17 at 19:31.