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2010-07-20 , 10:56
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There's a lot of confusion over N900 connectivity. It's predictable once you understand it.

If you choose "Connect Automatically" it will try to connect periodically whether or not any application needs connectivity at the time.

Non-interactive applications (e.g. Application Manager updates or background mail checks) are not allowed to create a new connection. They are only allowed to use a connection which is already established.

Interactive applications can create a connection in response to a user action (this includes asking you to choose a connection if you've set it to "Always Ask"). For example loading a web page, sending an IM or clicking 'Send & Receive" from your email client.

This bug report has some useful info.

If you're really curious, check the Maemo 5 Developer Guide.
 

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2010-07-20 , 11:19
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Aaww crap. Silly policies. Apparently somebody at Nokia HQ hasn't noticed that the N900 is not a tablet.

IIRC there should be some option to choose which applications are allowed to initiate a connection and which are not.

And if I understood this correct, this means that fMMS is stretching/breaking the policies since it connects completely on it's own?
 
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2010-07-20 , 11:34
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Originally Posted by skripis View Post
Aaww crap. Silly policies. Apparently somebody at Nokia HQ hasn't noticed that the N900 is not a tablet.

IIRC there should be some option to choose which applications are allowed to initiate a connection and which are not.

And if I understood this correct, this means that fMMS is stretching/breaking the policies since it connects completely on it's own?
Well fMMS works even without a data plan, so i suspect that it's not considered a traditional "data connection" and therefore not really stretching the policy.

I agree it would be nice to be able to specify per-app connection permissions. There are many UI/control aspects that are rough in this first iteration of phone/internet tablet.
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2010-07-20 , 11:54
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Originally Posted by skripis View Post
Aaww crap. Silly policies. Apparently somebody at Nokia HQ hasn't noticed that the N900 is not a tablet.

IIRC there should be some option to choose which applications are allowed to initiate a connection and which are not.

And if I understood this correct, this means that fMMS is stretching/breaking the policies since it connects completely on it's own?
I wonder why you didn't design the device and OS because it seems that you know everything best.

N900 is meant to be online 24/7. Why bother being without connection in case you might need it? App manager polls about once in 24 hours, and it could be any time between 00 and 23:59.

atleast I have jabber on always when not in offline mode (and it is the point of this device to me) so this doesn't matter to me at all. in other words: it isn't an issue. please keep in mind that in real world outside iGay there can be multiple ways to do different things. No one is better to another by default.

btw you can configure fMMS connectivity any way you want.
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2010-07-20 , 12:09
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I hated symbian way when I lost half a day of irc just because the stupid os didn't know how to autoreconnect without user input...
 
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2010-07-20 , 12:26
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Originally Posted by ossipena View Post
I wonder why you didn't design the device and OS because it seems that you know everything best.
...I wasn't being rude, my first sentence just lacked a

Don't worry, I'm not going to convert to "all caps" and start spamming about switching to Iphone4 before Nokia goes broke.

Originally Posted by ossipena View Post
N900 is meant to be online 24/7. Why bother being without connection in case you might need it? App manager polls about once in 24 hours, and it could be any time between 00 and 23:59.
I understand that know, from a desktop or laptop point of view it's perfectly understandable to keep the connection open at all times, but for a phone I'm not so sure...battery life on the N900 is not brilliant out of the box.

Originally Posted by ossipena View Post
atleast I have jabber on always when not in offline mode (and it is the point of this device to me) so this doesn't matter to me at all. in other words: it isn't an issue. please keep in mind that in real world outside iGay there can be multiple ways to do different things. No one is better to another by default.
...but we can agree that Maemo should be the proper place for choice, can't we?

Originally Posted by ossipena View Post
btw you can configure fMMS connectivity any way you want.
I know. fMMS does not concern me, it works (almost) as promised. First time I installed it however it created a MMS apn that the phone constantly connected to... I uninstalled and installed again, and now it runs "secretly" without bothering the rest of the OS with it's apn.
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