A lot depends on the questions "How backward compatible are Qt applications?" and "Will anyone port Qt 4.7 to Maemo 5?"

I guess Qt 5 isn't coming the next 12 months, so no need to won't worry about a major version incompatibility. But Qt 4.7 is already on the way:

"Qt 4.7 and Qt Creator 2.0 are planned for release in mid-2010 as part of the Qt SDK."

"Technology Previews of Qt 4.7 and Qt Creator 2.0 are now available for download testing and feedback."


So, our carrot to keep fear, uncertainty and doubt down is that we're promised an almost-instantly obsolete Qt version. I don't know anything about backward compatibility on the Qt framework, but on a lot of other frameworks, there'd be cause for concern.

See, I never felt very much comfort in the statements that we don't need officially supported MeeGo because we will have Qt 4.6. That's much like saying we don't need corn fields because we are promised a share of this years crop.

Since I saw the progress of porting applications and applets from Maemo 4 to Maemo 5, I hold back my enthusiasm a little when it comes to new versions on this platform. Some of my most-used thingies on Maemo 4 never reached Maemo 5, others are stuck in maemo-devel.

Surely this will be better with a Qt framework used across platforms, but that must mean that the version on the N900 is compatible to the versions people elsewhere use. And summer 2010 is not a long time horizon. It seems 4.7 will be out on devices very soon. Sooner than the first MeeGo phone.

Before I get shot down, let me say that I do not and did not expect this phone to be supported forever. When Nokia announced MeeGo, I did not think "Nokia needs to give us that!" I don't have expectations to a lot of company-paid development on any device once it's past it's initial marketing stages. Only enough to narrowly satisfy the ever-rising expectations in the market. Getting official support for MeeGo would be way beyond that.

I thought "this means developers will move their focus away from Maemo and over on MeeGo as soon as they can manage, because the current platform is a dead end". That means over on Qt, which Maemo will support. I thought this will mean people will start to rebuild the already existing applications on Qt instead of developing them further. And then they will move on to Qt 4.7 when Qt 4.7 is out.

I hope Qt developers will make backward compatible applets. If not, I fail to see why Qt 4.6 promises such an amazing future. The way I see it, the promise is that GTK+ development of existing products will be reduced and Qt development will increase on rewritten products. Rewritten usually means better, but it also means a significant delay. And significant delay means Qt 4.7 time.

I really think swapping to a cross platform Qt framework is a very smart move, and that Nokia and future Nokia customers will benefit from it. On the other hand, I also believe that it takes away resources, developers, and value from the Maemo 5 platform earlier than it would otherways do. At the moment, developers are even stopped from adding applications to the repositories because the new firmware is being held back, and the Qt framework version incompatibilities seems to be one of the issues that prevents developers from publishing lately.

So, back to my original statement in this thread - I'd rather see Maemo 5 firmware 1.3 than MeeGo 1.1. Well, that sort of depends on where they drop N900 support. I think the N900 is well out of any "can expect new functionality" phase long before MeeGo is "done" enough to fully replace a 1.3 firmware.

Wow, this post ended up being far too long.

how hot is too hot, according to cupfreqUI app?? thanks im around 30 deg celcius..

For the record, Fremantle sort-of already has 4.7. At least in the near future, it's going to have the same status as 4.6 does now.

I am going give a example
nokia 5800 at first the cpu was 369mhz now is 484mhz same as nokia n97
same amount of ram 128 mb right
When 5230 came out has look as 5800, but did look out dated.
v40.0 make it look more as n97 cool with similar feature right.

Now n900 maemo 5 not much apps right. But with meego os 1.1 and other os to come, there will be more games and apps.

Plus (2)two OS feature in 1 come people i personnel don't want to be left behind

Another example
look at Iphone every iphone get same update 2g to 3gs
now v4

make sense to you?

want a powerful phone that is not a tester cool.

N900 is the best phone eveeeerrry of it's time with and the best platform for meego OS quoter it as cloud feature means you can access your info any from laptop using xp, vista, win7, mac,linux and also any device using similar os and sync with your tv how cool is that.

Please realize that the two are really closely related. It’s like saying Windows Vista has more games than Windows XP. Sure, there will be more apps, but with good Qt support, they will just as easily be able to run on Maemo 5.

Err, no. The original iPhone is NOT getting iPhoneOS 4, and the iPhone 3G is getting just a subset in functionality.

More OS =/= more apps

i just got this one.

http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entry...-Review-Video-

Maemo 6 != MeeGo 1.1 (the video shows MeeGo)

What gave you the idea to respond to a thread that has been dead for over 3 months? Also, is the news related or revelant to this thread's discussion?

I want pr1.3