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#81
Originally Posted by sponka View Post
That's what I thought, too ... 3 pictures minimum. Hmm :/
if the amount of pictures changes "randomly", I am truly amazed: the app measures how many pictures are needed and takes only photos needed. There is no use taking 9 photos with 1/3 EV if you can take 2 photos +- 1 1/2 EV that provide same amount of data.

EV doesn't count, look at sensitivity, aperture and exposure.
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Originally Posted by ossipena View Post
if the amount of pictures changes "randomly", I am truly amazed: the app measures how many pictures are needed and takes only photos needed. There is no use taking 9 photos with 1/3 EV if you can take 2 photos +- 1 1/2 EV that provide same amount of data.

EV doesn't count, look at sensitivity, aperture and exposure.
Tryed outside on sunny day and ended with 2 or 3 dng files per shot. Might be as you said - phone (or app) decide how many to take

What impresses me most is time to write files - I made 5 or 6 shots and it took around 5 minutes for all files to be written, but I was able to shoot without interuption!

A colleague who repairs canon stuff and has more knowledge about hdr than me saw phone, did some shots and was amazed! Had quite hard time to explain him what kind of phone is N900 :P
 
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#83
Originally Posted by ossipena View Post
again: rtfl

I see no obstructions for open source people to write their own app that reads dngs.....
Who's the one not rtfl, anyway?

Seems to me it would make more sense for the devs to fix the output dng produced to be compatible with the hugely popular and well-developed open source library dng library, dcraw. Oh wait, they did: yay. Why they don't target it as primary compatibility goal considering it's the definitive open source implementation and this is an open source project was more the point of the original comment. Nothing in any of the links gives a satisfactory answer to that question.
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#84
Originally Posted by Flandry View Post
Why they don't target it as primary compatibility goal considering it's the definitive open source implementation and this is an open source project was more the point of the original comment. Nothing in any of the links gives a satisfactory answer to that question.
I suspect they had their plates full enough already and were eager to get their first release candidate out into the world.

I agree that targeting an open source dng reader on an open source platform is well worthwhile, but hey.. it's not as if Camera RAW has a small install base even if Linux isn't among the supported operating systems, so releasing for that target first and then patching in support for other implementations seems quite reasonable to me.

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Originally Posted by Bingley Joe View Post

A chicken emerging fully formed could be messy.. better that the tidy little egg arrives first
Wow, great line.
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#86
Originally Posted by debernardis View Post
Unfortunately I wasn't able to install Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 3 with Wine on my ubuntu box - and believe me or not I have no windows machine. Trying with a virtualized xp...
Plenty of options under linux - anything that uses dcraw for example:

[root@coRobin ~]# apt-cache rdepends dcraw
dcraw
Reverse Depends:
f-spot
thunar-thumbnailers
qtpfsgui
photon
phatch-cli
pfstools
krita
gimp-dcraw
gallery2
f-spot
exrtools
brdesktop-common

Also this is superb - sometimes does better conversions than lightroom and CSx

rawtherapee - A free RAW converter and digital photo processing software

Or you can pay for Bibble - runs wel under linux. Well, when its not crashing (bibble 5 is still erm... needing some lovin')
 
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Originally Posted by Bingley Joe View Post
A chicken emerging fully formed could be messy.. better that the tidy little egg arrives first
So you didnt see British scientists claim to have solved the mystery then?
 
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#88
Originally Posted by Flandry View Post
Who's the one not rtfl, anyway?

Seems to me it would make more sense for the devs to fix the output dng produced to be compatible with the hugely popular and well-developed open source library dng library, dcraw. Oh wait, they did: yay. Why they don't target it as primary compatibility goal considering it's the definitive open source implementation and this is an open source project was more the point of the original comment. Nothing in any of the links gives a satisfactory answer to that question.
if I remember correctly, you were ranting about dngs general and how they fight against whole open source stuff. did I misunderstand something?

e: the original words from you were:
Originally Posted by Flandry View Post
Does anyone else think it's kinda silly that this amazing open source, collaborative industry/academic, revolutionary camera project that was first released on a linux phone only supports a raw format that proprietary ($@%#) Adobe windows software can handle?
and imo this refers solely to the file format, not to the error fixed that was announced after your comment.
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Originally Posted by phedders View Post
So you didnt see British scientists claim to have solved the mystery then?
I have... and even evolution agrees that having an egg stage tidies things up considerably!
 
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#90
Originally Posted by pthomas22 View Post
I'm not going to buy CS5 just to access Fcam dng files!!

re HDR
It should give at it;s simplest level 3 images. One exposed for shadows, one exposed for highlights and one normal exposure. The Fcam app will not combine them but the HDR capture app will
NO need to buy CS5..i got it FREE..hehe. Anyway, when i used the merge to HDR in CS5 with the raw images or the jpg from N900 gallery..it doesn't look nice like the one captured by the standalone HDR Capture. I try playing with different tuning and settings...it's just never the same and in situation, it's worst. I got 3 pics that i combined....and it didn't look good to me. When i look at the pic from HDR Capture where it combined by itself...it looks amazing fine and detail. I just don't know why photoshop can't produce that kind of image.
 
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