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2007-10-01 , 04:15
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I just had to include the caveat for the eternal pessimists.
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To an extent, sure, but I still feel too many people must be expecting desktop performance from these tiny things, based on comments. That convergence is a while away... maybe never.



Yeah i agree. But the iphone is pretty snappy. Nokia with so much experience in mobile devices should do better than a company with not much experience in this field.
How do you explain that??
 
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Originally Posted by sachin007 View Post
Yeah i agree. But the iphone is pretty snappy. Nokia with
so much experience in mobile devices should do better than a company with not much
experience in this field.
How do you explain that??
Nokia has never built a Linux-based, touchscreen touting, open source platform powered Internet Tablet before the 770/N800. Let's see, who else has built such a device? Um...no one.

Sure, the iPhone ui may be quick, but it's not exactly trying to do more powerful tasks that the NITs are capable of either. True, Nokia has some work ahead to step up their game when it comes to software performance and hardware support, but so does any company attempting to bring forth innovation to a market that surely needs it now more than ever.
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#134
Originally Posted by =DC= View Post
Nokia has never built a Linux-based, touchscreen touting, open source platform powered Internet Tablet before the 770/N800. Let's see, who else has built such a device? Um...no one.
Didn't Apple worked up a full blown OS on top of the BSD kernel for both their desktops and mobile device??
 
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#135
Originally Posted by sachin007 View Post
Yeah i agree. But the iphone is pretty snappy. Nokia with so much experience in mobile devices should do better than a company with not much experience in this field.
How do you explain that??
The iPhone has a much beefier CPU than the N800 and is (well, was) a much more expensive device.
 
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Didn't Apple worked up a full blown OS on top of the BSD kernel for both their desktops and mobile device??
Not before the 770, and from what I hear, iPones haven't really been too "open" friendly lately.
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Originally Posted by =DC= View Post
Not before the 770, and from what I hear, iPones haven't really been too "open" friendly lately.
So you're saying that open devices are held to a different standard?
Less intuitive interface and slower development time is acceptable?
 
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@Zorg and Virion - dunno, I was just basing my comment on this article which says older hardware is not supported (but the installer can be hacked). Unless the article is entirely incorrect, it does appear that the OS X installer (as it comes "out of the box") will prevent installation on older Apple kit against the wishes of the owner ("Apple knows best") so I stand by my comment, even if some of you have had success.
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@Zorg and Virion - dunno, I was just basing my comment on this article which says older hardware is not supported (but the installer can be hacked). Unless the article is entirely incorrect, it does appear that the OS X installer (as it comes "out of the box") will prevent installation on older Apple kit against the wishes of the owner ("Apple knows best") so I stand by my comment, even if some of you have had success.
Well, I'll try again, since you evidently didn't look clearly enough the first time.

Originally Posted by Milhouse View Post
Good luck getting Mac OS X 10.4 (or later) to run on any Apple G3 or G4 powered kit, or even late model G5s.
First and foremost, Mac OS X 10.4 != Mac OS X 10.5.

Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger) restricts installation on Old World (pre-iMac, hardware ROM Toolbox), 1st-generation iMac (233MHz), iBook (300MHz), and Lombard (250-300MHz) machines. It installs and runs just fine on any other Macintosh.

Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) restricts installation on G4s 800MHz and less (Lamp-iMac and early-model Quicksilver towers) and G3 machines. Leopard will run just fine on the vast majority of G4 machines, and all models of G5.

Stand by them if you will, but, as you can tell, the facts in the article and the content of your post conflict. So, please, check your facts and your numbers before you post.
 
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#140
So it seems we'll get extra hardware - a keyboard?

It's getting worse and worse with each model.
 
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