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2010-08-16
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#132
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Originally Posted by lavo
It's a jolly good thing that they used readily available batteries - unlike Apple devices these days.
... and are still using their 2000s and 2100s 12 years after Apple pulled the plug.
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2010-08-16
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Originally Posted by HarryN
The more advanced user you are the more benefit you would have from an n900. There have been complaints against the mail client on the n900 though for me it is more than enough. I use gmail, hotmail and gcalender.
Hi, I am one of the people that bought the Nokia 770 a long time ago. I understood I was early in the game, but was generally happy with the tablet for basic internet browsing from home.
I tried to use it for email, but the email client was far to basic, and while it "supported" imap, it didn't really allow many things that a desktop email client does allow - such as "marking" an email for future use, etc.
The contact manager back then was not able to easily sync with ACT! easily, also a major challenge for my work.
I am now at the point of wanting to buy a new phone, ideally from Nokia, so the question is - do I buy an N900 or the newer symbian platform based phones? I looked at each, careful to make sure that these two very basic functions- a) Contact management and b) Email client are working well and able to keep up.
I might be missing something, but as far as I can tell, neither software base to this day has a viable email client for all but hobby use. What am I msising here?
IMHO, we don't need "more apps" we need apps that do the job.
Make a list on what your exact needs are and see if the n900 does it.
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2010-08-16
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#134
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Originally Posted by HarryN
I think you've wandered into the wrong thread, lad. Please check the topic and try again, or ask a computer operator to help you.
do I buy an N900 or the newer symbian platform based phones?
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2010-08-16
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#135
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@abill_uk theres something i don't quite get. You state that the reason for not sharing your mod with OTG usb mode is the warrenty but later states is because of the potential earnings you might loose? Wich is it?
Also stated is that you made this mod and later you say that we got this working (some storage devices and a 19" lcd screen and we worked on it? Wich is it, you alone or you AND others?
And further more you keep telling people to stay on topic when you infact by yourself mentioned the OTG usb mode to be one of your contributions to the community (so you whent off topic), wich you keep to yourself so not really contributing anything there?
I'm not for the attacking or name calling but i'm all for calling peoples BS and theres just missing that red thread in your posts they just don't add up in the end. To me it feels like you come with most of the answers as the thread goes along and not remebering what you stated earlier.
And why all the fear of the future and not being here in the present and enjoy.
This is an awsome device and if it where that of today no more would come to the N900 (community or Nokia wise) i will still love it and use it for long time forward. And i don't feel anything against Nokia or there lag off support, so what, yell all you want Nokia wont here you nor the community. In the end i feel i got what i payed for and do not at all feel my money is wasted nor my time and feel confident for what the future brings to this device
Also stated is that you made this mod and later you say that we got this working (some storage devices and a 19" lcd screen and we worked on it? Wich is it, you alone or you AND others?
And further more you keep telling people to stay on topic when you infact by yourself mentioned the OTG usb mode to be one of your contributions to the community (so you whent off topic), wich you keep to yourself so not really contributing anything there?
I'm not for the attacking or name calling but i'm all for calling peoples BS and theres just missing that red thread in your posts they just don't add up in the end. To me it feels like you come with most of the answers as the thread goes along and not remebering what you stated earlier.
And why all the fear of the future and not being here in the present and enjoy.
This is an awsome device and if it where that of today no more would come to the N900 (community or Nokia wise) i will still love it and use it for long time forward. And i don't feel anything against Nokia or there lag off support, so what, yell all you want Nokia wont here you nor the community. In the end i feel i got what i payed for and do not at all feel my money is wasted nor my time and feel confident for what the future brings to this device
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2010-08-16
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#136
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OP you need to look back and see what has been done in regards to early tablets.
Community has a very limited time to be working for free, here do all these great work as a hobby or fun. there is only so much a community can do.
and there is a big reason its called community rather than a corporation.
Community has a very limited time to be working for free, here do all these great work as a hobby or fun. there is only so much a community can do.
and there is a big reason its called community rather than a corporation.
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2010-08-16
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#137
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@Dousan: this may explain it:
Originally Posted by abill_uk
You need to know something about me ok... if someone starts to be nasty then i will go against that with contempt and deliberately ignore what they are saying just for the hell of it and go with it BUT if someone puts themselves across in a proper and good manner then i will listen totally.
Now if you can just understand that and let all the FANBOYS know they might just be able to give it up cos i am too old in the tooth to give in... OK ?.
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2010-08-16
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#138
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Originally Posted by Dousan
@abill_uk theres something i don't quite get. You state that the reason for not sharing your mod with OTG usb mode is the warrenty but later states is because of the potential earnings you might loose? Wich is it?
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Originally Posted by Dousan
"what is this community prepared to do for us regarding the N900?"
infact by yourself mentioned the OTG usb mode to be one of your contributions to the community (so you whent off topic), wich you keep to yourself so not really contributing anything there?
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The title of this thread has a certain sense of irony!
abill_uk seems to think the community here solely consists of noobs and people not as experienced as himself.
That really is quite patronising and elitist.
Especially since I have over 25 years of commercial hardware and software experience under my belt and yes I am very handy with a soldering iron (my Dad had me soldering at 10 years old!).
Before anyone jumps down my throat - I am not saying I know more that abill_uk, I am just saying I have the skills to do the mod.
Also, abill_uk is unwilling to share his hardware mod just seems to prove he does not seem to have any faith in the community.
What abill_uk should do is release schematics of the work he has done. If it is really as hard as he says it is then sure, he can still charge to make the mods. Ideal for "noobs" and people who lack the skills to it - that's fine.
However, in the true sense of community spirit he should let other people (who may have the skills) perform the mods themselves - we enjoy that kind of challenge!.
So, really to take any advice from him is like an MP advising you what you can't claim in your expenses form!
The community is doing just fine.
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2010-08-16
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#139
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It will be a bit off the topic.
What's wrong with all those who wants to change OS? DId you buy the hardware and now start to complain there's no future for it?(yea I know about definition N900 is computer like, you buy hardware and then choose software to use)
Sorry, but I knew what I chose when I bought N900. And actually I feel very satisfied with what I got. I like Maemo5, I like N900 hardware although I don't overestimate it.
So I question again? Are you so unsatisfed with Maemo5, all its capability and features?
NITDroid is what I would never want on my N900. Why would I? Moreover, I would prefer to buy dedicated device if I want to.
Almost the same goes for MeeGo. While I see a long future for it, I don't see the reason to install it. What do you want to see there? I suspect it won't offer something new for us - same or even more stricted functionality compared to Maemo5, just more fancy UI. Even so, why would I want to change from Maemo5 to MeeGo if they are equal in terms of functionality? Personally, I'm not the big fan of all that cute transitions and etc. Moreover, I really like Maemo5 UI and the possibility to tweak almost everything.
Speaking of software, I actually already more than happy with what Maemo5 offers me. Yes, there are some aspects of phone usage,where our beloved device couldn't compare to others. But I adjusted to it, it fills my needs enough to be happy with what I have.
So you probably guees my verdict - why be so unsatisfied and try to fill your needs by others?
Last edited by qwenjis; 2010-08-16 at 08:16.
What's wrong with all those who wants to change OS? DId you buy the hardware and now start to complain there's no future for it?(yea I know about definition N900 is computer like, you buy hardware and then choose software to use)
Sorry, but I knew what I chose when I bought N900. And actually I feel very satisfied with what I got. I like Maemo5, I like N900 hardware although I don't overestimate it.
So I question again? Are you so unsatisfed with Maemo5, all its capability and features?
NITDroid is what I would never want on my N900. Why would I? Moreover, I would prefer to buy dedicated device if I want to.
Almost the same goes for MeeGo. While I see a long future for it, I don't see the reason to install it. What do you want to see there? I suspect it won't offer something new for us - same or even more stricted functionality compared to Maemo5, just more fancy UI. Even so, why would I want to change from Maemo5 to MeeGo if they are equal in terms of functionality? Personally, I'm not the big fan of all that cute transitions and etc. Moreover, I really like Maemo5 UI and the possibility to tweak almost everything.
Speaking of software, I actually already more than happy with what Maemo5 offers me. Yes, there are some aspects of phone usage,where our beloved device couldn't compare to others. But I adjusted to it, it fills my needs enough to be happy with what I have.
So you probably guees my verdict - why be so unsatisfied and try to fill your needs by others?
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2010-08-16
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#140
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So...
Having arrived at page 14, at least I learned:
That Hildon development has officially stopped (the git link placed somewhere earlier). I had not seen that before, probably due to the fact that I am relatively new on this forum.
That some people prefer to get into semantics based on the wrong use of words like "us" and the like. (Al though I will admit I was put off by the thread title as well.) It would actually be nice if people would try and remember that a lot of people here do not speak english as their primary language (I for one).
That there are positive examples of devices no longer supported by their manufacturers, machines that manage to stay alive for many years after the support was dropped.
I guess to get further with this discussion a couple of things would be needed:
A focus on the OS of choice, which for me automatically means maemo5.
Dedication to future development and fixing existing bugs in said OS.
A constructive way of communicating. More than is the case now.
None of this is possible without a strong community. And that is how I interpreted the use of the dreaded word "us".
Last edited by anthonie; 2010-08-16 at 09:13.
Having arrived at page 14, at least I learned:
That Hildon development has officially stopped (the git link placed somewhere earlier). I had not seen that before, probably due to the fact that I am relatively new on this forum.
That some people prefer to get into semantics based on the wrong use of words like "us" and the like. (Al though I will admit I was put off by the thread title as well.) It would actually be nice if people would try and remember that a lot of people here do not speak english as their primary language (I for one).
That there are positive examples of devices no longer supported by their manufacturers, machines that manage to stay alive for many years after the support was dropped.
I guess to get further with this discussion a couple of things would be needed:
A focus on the OS of choice, which for me automatically means maemo5.
Dedication to future development and fixing existing bugs in said OS.
A constructive way of communicating. More than is the case now.
None of this is possible without a strong community. And that is how I interpreted the use of the dreaded word "us".
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I tried to use it for email, but the email client was far to basic, and while it "supported" imap, it didn't really allow many things that a desktop email client does allow - such as "marking" an email for future use, etc.
The contact manager back then was not able to easily sync with ACT! easily, also a major challenge for my work.
I am now at the point of wanting to buy a new phone, ideally from Nokia, so the question is - do I buy an N900 or the newer symbian platform based phones? I looked at each, careful to make sure that these two very basic functions- a) Contact management and b) Email client are working well and able to keep up.
I might be missing something, but as far as I can tell, neither software base to this day has a viable email client for all but hobby use. What am I msising here?
IMHO, we don't need "more apps" we need apps that do the job.