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2007-10-01 , 14:09
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Originally Posted by Rebski View Post
Certainly we can’t halt the march of hardware development, nor would we want too. What is sorely lacking with the N800 is the march of software development.

So I am a bit confused by Nokia bringing out a new device. If it’s going to do as little as the existing one then it all seems a bit pointless to me.
Careful with the assumptions there, Rebski. Would you not expect a new OS release with new hardware?

And I will keep hammering this point home in general: Nokia IS learning from past missteps. Lessons learned ARE being factored into current and future developments.

Patience.
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Originally Posted by ysss View Post
So you're saying that open devices are held to a different standard?
Less intuitive interface and slower development time is acceptable?
No, but his unspoken point is certainly valid: openness *tends* to cause slowness in performance and development due to its very nature (surely no one has to explain that here). When a company maintains absolute control over the operating environment, they can prevent the introduction of elements that interfere with the core functionality. That is Apple's stated goal with the iPhone and iPods. People can gripe about it, but they have a valid point. Microsoft products are far more open than Apples, and everyone is well aware of what havoc that wreaks. If Linux enjoyed the level of deployment that Windows does you'd see the same situation there and probably worse.

There is a tradeoff between openness and control, and the pros and cons each approach brings, and while theory of how openness *should* work sounds good it does not exactly manifest as hoped... unfortunately.
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Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
So it seems we'll get extra hardware - a keyboard?

It's getting worse and worse with each model.
I fail to see how adding a model with a keyboard makes ANYthing worse, benny. It's an ADDITION to the line, not a direct replacement. Another purchasing option; the N800 is NOT dead yet, despite the claims of ravenous Apple fans.

And check the FCC details closer. You overlooked something it seems.
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If the hardware keyboard doesn't make the device bigger and is a faster/easier text input method than the current on screen keyboard, than I think it is a improvement.
I think a hardware keyboard will be a improvement, but I will have to determine that for for myself when the device is released.
 
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I think people will be very pleasantly surprised by the next model, for more than one reason.
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
I think people will be very pleasantly surprised by the next model, for more than one reason.
Oh, god . . . here it goes again. :P

All that I know is my cash will be down on the counter as soon as CompUSA opens its doors on release day.
 
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I thought CompUSA has been closing their doors far more than opening them lately?
 
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Texrat: Yeah, I'm aware of the pros and cons of opensource products and development. My point was, the end product that the NIT is supposed to be (which clearly it still isn't now), should be held to the same standard as other competing products

Maybe for linux developers and hackers, it's already a dream platform at the moment. But unless the NIT can tap into a larger audience, how long will Nokia keep this up?

PS: For those people that are hating the slide-out keyboard without seeing and trying it out first, I wonder if they would know what they're missing if given the new tablet with the keyboard welded or superglued shut.
 
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
I think people will be very pleasantly surprised by the next model, for more than one reason.
So let's hope the keyboard will be detachable and will work also as a cover, that would be two reasons for me (GPS being third weak reason).
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I fail to see how adding a model with a keyboard makes ANYthing worse, benny. It's an ADDITION to the line, not a direct replacement. Another purchasing option; the N800 is NOT dead yet, despite the claims of ravenous Apple fans.

And check the FCC details closer. You overlooked something it seems.
I was I was hoping for an addition to the line that I could could buy as an replacement for my 770 - smaller than the N800 and with a hard cover. Your last remark makes me wonder...
 
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