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theflew	2010-08-28 , 23:00
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Originally Posted by Ykho

but isn't nokia and intel working on meego together??
what's the N9 going to be running?

Basically Maemo 6 which was announced last year this time. Maemo 6 was already planned to be Qt based. The only change MeeGo really brings to the table that Maemo 6 doesn''t support is RPM packaging. I'm sure Maemo 6/Harmattan have other changes to be more MeeGo compatible but there shouldn't be huge differences between the two. I imagine when Nokia moves from Maemo 6/Harmattan to MeeGo X.X the end user might not even notice.

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	digittante	2010-08-28 , 23:05
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Originally Posted by n900faniam

not sure if this has been done yet (I'm guessing it has) but should a poll be set up to see how many maemo users will switch to meego when it's launched? My money would be on a huge switch for end users wanting a simpler os format with more of the bells and whistles you'd see on android these days

I posted a poll back in June that can be revived.

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TheTree	2010-08-28 , 23:58
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Originally Posted by superhero

I mean how many smartphones out there today can say "we might be able to have more then 1 OS on my smartphone"?

There's a few:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/h...touchscreen-e/

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/06/y...droid-2-2-too/

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	qgil	2010-08-29 , 08:40
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Originally Posted by Milhouse

Not really sure what you mean by you comparisons and talk about seeds, but Harmattan/Maemo6 has been rebranded to a confusing extent and referred to as being the first release of "MeeGo" when it is based almostly entirely on Maemo. Since it should be fairly well developed by now (just an extension of Fremantle/Maemo5) it's the most likely candidate for a product release this year.

What I've referred to as "true" MeeGo on the other hand is the OS based almost entirely on Moblin with very little Maemo input, and which is nowhere near ready for release in 2010 let alone a product announcement.

This comment is a bit surprising at this point. Have you tried the MeeGo Handset UX? Have you seen its architecture? Have you compared this user experience and the architecture with the counterparts at Moblin?

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Milhouse	2010-08-30 , 13:27
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Originally Posted by qgil

This comment is a bit surprising at this point. Have you tried the MeeGo Handset UX? Have you seen its architecture? Have you compared this user experience and the architecture with the counterparts at Moblin?

Sorry Quim, I'm not referring specifically to the Handset UX but to the underlying OS in general which to a large extent has (or certainly had) more in common with Moblin than Maemo.

I have tried the MeeGo Handset UX and to be honest I can't say there's much to be impressed about so far, or anything that says it has a Maemo heritage - as UXes go the Fremantle UX far exceeds that available in the currently available MeeGo Handset UX builds.

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	qgil	2010-08-31 , 00:21
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Looking at the architecture at http://meego.com/developers/meego-architecture you can't find actually many components that are not present in Maemo or MeeGo-Harmattan (provisional name). In fact that stack is also far away from Moblin. Of course we can discuss better on these details once MeeGo-Harmattan is out.

Comparing the current MeeGo-Handset vanilla with Maemo 5 final productized by Nokia is unfair. If you remember the first Fremantle releases they were also judged as unimpressive by many or most people around here.

Heavy work is going on to bring MeeGo and MeeGo-Harmattan releases out.

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superhero	2010-08-31 , 01:04
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I'm sorry but this ----OFF TOPIC---- question really got me thinking.

If we to say meego comes to the N900 device officially by nokia and supports everything... as they say ( or speculate) that the meego device is coming with capasitive touchscreen. and this officlial release of meego for the N900 by nokia has the all the drivers needed for this touch screen (resistive touchscreen) but also has it built in drivers for capacitve touchscreens, would we be able to change the current LCD Resistive, to a capasitive? would it work or there will just be a big misunderstanding by both hardware and software and then nothing would show?.

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wmarone	2010-08-31 , 04:17
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Originally Posted by superhero

I'm sorry but this ----OFF TOPIC---- question really got me thinking.

If we to say meego comes to the N900 device officially by nokia and supports everything... as they say ( or speculate) that the meego device is coming with capasitive touchscreen. and this officlial release of meego for the N900 by nokia has the all the drivers needed for this touch screen (resistive touchscreen) but also has it built in drivers for capacitve touchscreens, would we be able to change the current LCD Resistive, to a capasitive? would it work or there will just be a big misunderstanding by both hardware and software and then nothing would show?.

1. MeeGo is not officially coming to the N900
2. You cannot just swap in a capacitive panel, as it requires special hardware to work which the N900 does not have.

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Milhouse	2010-08-31 , 13:40
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Originally Posted by qgil

Comparing the current MeeGo-Handset vanilla with Maemo 5 final productized by Nokia is unfair. If you remember the first Fremantle releases they were also judged as unimpressive by many or most people around here.

Heavy work is going on to bring MeeGo and MeeGo-Harmattan releases out.

Great, I did think about adding a rider to my above UX criticism along the lines of "MeeGo is of course alpha/beta etc." but I have no idea if the available UX is representative of what Nokia intend to ship, or not (hopefully not). Perhaps some clarification on that would help as the current MeeGo Handset UX is very plain and very dull, and clearly needs a lot more work for it to be competitive (even with Fremantle).

So are you saying the currently available MeeGo Handset UX is unrepresentative of what will finally ship? If so it's probably stating the obvious as MeeGo on handsets will get panned in it's current state, but would be good to hear officially (I have missed any official announcements to that effect). Is there an approximate ETA for when the updated UX will start to become available in the codedrop builds?

Last edited by Milhouse; 2010-08-31 at 13:43.