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#81
Really sad news!
since nokia is a finnish company i prefer that the leaders of the company are from finland. there are alot of good intelligent people in finland and theres actually no good reason at all to import staff members from other countries.

its almost like a insult to the finnish people, what nokia does.
sending out a message to the finnish people that they apparantly arent good enough to be on the top ...or maybe the company just got infiltrated :-(
 

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Originally Posted by vkv.raju View Post
I still am not getting why people are not getting this right.

There would be no change in what Nokia is doing currently. Symbian^3, Symbian^4, Qt, MeeGo,etc. They all would remain the way they have been planned.

Elop is hired with a hope that he could be a showman for Nokia
I think that's the prob. Nobody is realistically expecting that anything will change for the upcoming software/hardware decisions; it's just that Anssi Vanjoki really was a good public face for Nokia. Even I could feel this dude's intensity about how much he enjoyed working at Nokia as well as how much he believed in their products. It was... sorta contagious.

That's my concern about his resignation in 6 months. His replacement will have to up the ante quite a bit to sell me as well as he did when he talked.
 

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Originally Posted by allnameswereout View Post
Pump 'n dump of stock. Not rare really. Typical American, don't look further than your nose is long
That's not my nose--and please stop staring.
 

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Originally Posted by S0urcerr0r View Post
Really sad news!
since nokia is a finnish company i prefer that the leaders of the company are from finland. there are alot of good intelligent people in finland and theres actually no good reason at all to import staff members from other countries.

its almost like a insult to the finnish people, what nokia does.
sending out a message to the finnish people that they apparantly arent good enough to be on the top ...or maybe the company just got infiltrated :-(
It's a global corporation - deal with it. Global organisations choose the best people for a job based on ability, not nationality - Finns shouldn't be given preferential treatment, that would be classed as positive discrimination (which is illegal in many European countries) and it's this positively stupid employment tactic that has basically taken Nokia to the brink. Nokia when run by Finns is not good enough in the current market, that's a cast iron fact - no infiltration required, the Finns dropped the ball, nobody else.

More Finns should be removed from upper management within Nokia and if they are replaced by non-Finns it will almost certainly result in the quality bar being raised immeasurably.

Why the head of Design is a Finn I have no idea, what the hell have Finns ever designed? It all started going wrong with Nokia product designs when Frank Nuovo (an American, the head of Nokias Global Design team) left the company in 2006 to be replaced by... a Finn who knows nothing about product design. Rinse and repeat in pretty much every critical area of Nokia upper management.

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Originally Posted by droll View Post
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/15/n...tware-follows/

hah, this is what people have been saying for so long. Nokia, the days of building a phone only are GONE. that was 10 years ago. people have moved on to services and applications.
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Originally Posted by Milhouse View Post


Why the head of Design is a Finn I have no idea, what the hell have Finns ever designed? It all started going wrong with Nokia product designs when Frank Nuovo (an American, the head of Nokias Global Design team) left the company in 2006 to be replaced by... a Finn who knows nothing about product design. Rinse and repeat in pretty much every critical area of Nokia upper management.
Letting the rest of your clueless post rest in peace. Just pointing out that Frank Nuovo was replacerd by a brit, Alistair Curtis.
 

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Originally Posted by Rauha View Post
Letting the rest of your clueless post rest in peace.
Clueless? So do you not believe a global organisation should pick and choose the best staff from around the globe? Or are you in favour of positive discrimination?

Originally Posted by Rauha View Post
Just pointing out that Frank Nuovo was replacerd by a brit, Alistair Curtis.
What about Marko Ahtisaari?
 
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Originally Posted by Milhouse View Post
Why the head of Design is a Finn I have no idea, what the hell have Finns ever designed? It all started going wrong with Nokia product designs when Frank Nuovo (an American, the head of Nokias Global Design team) left the company in 2006 to be replaced by... a Finn who knows nothing about product design. Rinse and repeat in pretty much every critical area of Nokia upper management.
Are you seriously asking about that? Never heard of scandinavian design?

And about current desing of touchphones? IMO anyone. Yes anyone could do that shait. Itīs like letīs put this 3-4 inch screen and welllllll letīs try different materials and different corners and maybe keyboard or not. Ohh wow that pure genius. Every touchphone looks like one another to me. Little things but currently UI of smartphone has come the one aspect of design of whole product. Not a long ago it was how you place keyboard and man there was different approaches to that.

Iīm not saying that current design is bad but I do not see it as it needs any expertise. Next thing that might make things different are foldable and rollable displays.

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Originally Posted by slender View Post
Are you seriously asking about that? Never heard of scandinavian design?
Yes, so it's a shame Finland isn't a part of Scandinavia, isn't it? (Look it up, it's a common misconception that Finland is part of Scandinavia - it's not).
 
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