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2010-09-18
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It's not a smartphone because when you log-on to a site like facebook, it doesn't show any *phone* symbol beside *8 hours ago via Facebook for iPhone*. lol
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2010-09-18
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Originally Posted by TiagoTiago
With Symbian^3 devices coming, you will have a hard time convincing anyone. How do you explain that Android pads are anything but a swollen (and crippled) android phone ?
(people who consider the N900 just a a smartphone please don't troll in this thread)
What is the best way to convince people when i show them my N900 that it's not a smartphone?
What I mean is that the N900 is a mobile computer, but the N8 smartphone is even more mobile computer than the N900, even though it is a smartphone.
The N9 better be real good. Simply running an inferior OS like Linux instead of Symbian does NOT make it a mobile computer in my book.
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2010-09-18
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I had a lecturer who insisted on calling computers machines. I've picked up the habit from him. The N900 is just a smaller machine. OK, so it did replace my mobile phone, which was a device that I never thought of as a machine. I guess I was wrong. It was a machine with a radio in it.
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2010-09-18
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Originally Posted by ysss
Great. Now you're talking about how BIG it is, STRAPPING it on and STREAMING all over the place. Feh! We're RIGHT back to PORN!
Yeah, I was gonna make a comment about size too.
Would you still call it a 'mobile computer' when the thing sits on a strap on your wrist?
Granted you may be able to stream the video to external display (and other external i/o devices). But that's a whole different category of devices...
Originally Posted by khang
You weren't in class that day when they taught everyone about USER AGENT strings and how to change it in your browser to fit the presentation you want.
It's not a smartphone because when you log-on to a site like facebook, it doesn't show any *phone* symbol beside *8 hours ago via Facebook for iPhone*. lol
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YOU FAIL!
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2010-09-18
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I would say that the main difference between a mobile computer and a cellular phone is that on a computer you can compile/install any program/OS, while on a phone you wholly depend on your operator for updates and any functionality.
However, smart-phone blurs this distinction. I would say:
if you use device mostly for phone calls and SMS, it is a phone, maybe a smart one;
if you use device mostly for WiFi, it is an Internet Tablet, maybe a smart one;
if you use device mostly for GPS, it is a navigation unit, maybe a smart one;
if you use device mostly for camera, it is a camera;
if you use device mostly for calculator, it is a calculator;
if you use device mostly offline (office documents, texts, compilation of programs), it is a computer;
if you use device for everything at once, it is a multimedia device.
One point which can hardly be disputed: N900 is an all-purpose portable electronic computer (a cellular phone is an electronic computer with capabilities limited by singleness of purpose for the sake of endurance and performance). N900 is not just a phone or a tablet or a camera or a calculator; it's multitasking in all meanings of this word.
However, smart-phone blurs this distinction. I would say:
if you use device mostly for phone calls and SMS, it is a phone, maybe a smart one;
if you use device mostly for WiFi, it is an Internet Tablet, maybe a smart one;
if you use device mostly for GPS, it is a navigation unit, maybe a smart one;
if you use device mostly for camera, it is a camera;
if you use device mostly for calculator, it is a calculator;
if you use device mostly offline (office documents, texts, compilation of programs), it is a computer;
if you use device for everything at once, it is a multimedia device.
One point which can hardly be disputed: N900 is an all-purpose portable electronic computer (a cellular phone is an electronic computer with capabilities limited by singleness of purpose for the sake of endurance and performance). N900 is not just a phone or a tablet or a camera or a calculator; it's multitasking in all meanings of this word.
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2010-09-18
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do install gcc / g++ (for advanced users) or more simply ice tea (javac+java) then compile and run your own programs (for ice tea you can run jar files which are using a desktop window interface).
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2010-09-18
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Originally Posted by deprecated
Deprecated: If someone sits outside of my apartment blowing the horn of his car because he wants someone to come outside, that offends me even if the horn is "aimed" at someone else. I found your comments offensive regardless of where you were aiming them.
As opposed to the tone of countless others, who - for all intents and purposes - sit on this forum simply to say "lol, my android such-and-such is better, you guys are all scrubs, lol"? If something I said upset you, I suggest you read it again and decide where it was aimed. Moreover, having an actual conversation with myself (with myself actually answering) would denote clinical issues. I'm not crazy :<
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2010-09-18
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Just tell them that basic phones just work. Computers get complicated weird errors. The n900 has many complicated issues and is not very user friendly, which should make it clear that the n900 is a computer.
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2010-09-18
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How come it becomes a debate on whether its a computer or not?
Come on, it so simple.
Just take out anything and tell people it's a computer. If you don't receive laugher as response then it's a computer.
(take out iPhone) "It's a computer"
"MUHAHAHAHA what an idiot are you?"
(take out N900)"It's a computer"
".........................oh btw how's your day"
See? No debate needed.
Come on, it so simple.
Just take out anything and tell people it's a computer. If you don't receive laugher as response then it's a computer.
(take out iPhone) "It's a computer"
"MUHAHAHAHA what an idiot are you?"
(take out N900)"It's a computer"
".........................oh btw how's your day"
See? No debate needed.
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2010-09-19
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Originally Posted by Wikiwide
I'm still confident all your examples are computers, I'm positive you won't be able to name any device which isn't a computer, and I'm pretty sure you meant "PC" with computer. Every ****ing Nokia phone you ever owned was a ****ing computer.
I would say that the main difference between a mobile computer and a cellular phone is that on a computer you can compile/install any program/OS, while on a phone you wholly depend on your operator for updates and any functionality.
However, smart-phone blurs this distinction. I would say:
if you use device mostly for phone calls and SMS, it is a phone, maybe a smart one;
if you use device mostly for WiFi, it is an Internet Tablet, maybe a smart one;
if you use device mostly for GPS, it is a navigation unit, maybe a smart one;
if you use device mostly for camera, it is a camera;
if you use device mostly for calculator, it is a calculator;
if you use device mostly offline (office documents, texts, compilation of programs), it is a computer;
if you use device for everything at once, it is a multimedia device.
One point which can hardly be disputed: N900 is an all-purpose portable electronic computer (a cellular phone is an electronic computer with capabilities limited by singleness of purpose for the sake of endurance and performance). N900 is not just a phone or a tablet or a camera or a calculator; it's multitasking in all meanings of this word.
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