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2010-09-20 , 18:32
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Originally Posted by etuoyo View Post
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/20/n...-final-amends/

Seems N8 has been delayed a few weeks for some final fixes. Knowing Nokia it will still get released with loads of bugs. They can never seem to release a device on time and when it is released late it is still buggy. Will not be suprised if they use early adaptors as guinea pigs once more.
ALL software has bugs. All hardware has bugs too. Most people don't realize how complicated these phones actually are and how much work it really takes to put one of these together.

I would suffice to say that all manufactures have delayed releases. It only really becomes an issue for consumers when the company has announced a release date...
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2010-09-20 , 18:51
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Originally Posted by lpotter View Post
ALL software has bugs. All hardware has bugs too. Most people don't realize how complicated these phones actually are and how much work it really takes to put one of these together.
Thats just an excuse.. all software DO have bugs, but bugs that are visible to an end-user after a few days (hours in the case of Nokia) are just completely unacceptable.

Here's an example of a Nokia "bug":
after PR1.2, if you get an incoming phone call (and you have phone mode set to Portrait - the default mode) then the screen will blank out and the answer button moves causing the user to be unable to answer the call.

Acceptable bug while in development cycle, complete F-UP when seen by end-users..

BTW, if the n8 camera is as good as it looks in 'real life' usage, it will sell like hotcakes in Europe, Asia. Camera priority users will care less about a crappy OS
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2010-09-20 , 18:54
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#73
I've not read the whole thread, so sorry if this has already been posted, but check this video out made on the N8. I hope the N9 can do this...

http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/Sept2010/noki...ted-movie.html
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2010-09-20 , 18:58
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Originally Posted by richie View Post
I've not read the whole thread, so sorry if this has already been posted, but check this video out made on the N8. I hope the N9 can do this...

http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/Sept2010/noki...ted-movie.html
Very cool stuff indeed! I think any mobile phone can do that, but it's still a wonderful bit of marketing.
 
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2010-09-20 , 18:59
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#75
I would be tempted to buy the N8 if only for the great Camera module and HD video support.
 
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2010-09-20 , 19:00
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Symbian in itself is absolutely fine with low hardware requirements. As a mobile phone OS its perfect. But Nokia is trying to push it further into the smartphone field and they shouldn't be doing that.

If Nokia wants to continue to make Symbian phones that's fine but don't try and sell it as a smartphone and expect users to pay top-end prices for it - it's bad value for money and bad for Nokia's reputation.

Nokia abandoned a perfectly working smartphone OS (maemo) and decided to start again with Meego - a "new" OS with new bugs on a new device. Effectively they've lost the momentum they had at the end of last year and back at the beginning again.

Nokia will have a tough few months trying to be credible competitor in the high-end smartphone market and hopefully they can turn things around.
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2010-09-20 , 19:02
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#77
Originally Posted by richie View Post
I've not read the whole thread, so sorry if this has already been posted, but check this video out made on the N8. I hope the N9 can do this...

http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/Sept2010/noki...ted-movie.html
This can do the N900 as well. Look at the end of the Video. There is a additional lense before the N8. And you need not more than a software and 640x480pixel resolution. This Video is only a well with hard and a lot of work made video.
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2010-09-20 , 19:08
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Originally Posted by mmurfin87 View Post
Symbian 3 sucks just as much as Symbian60 v5. The video is a testament to that.
The video is just a testament how eagerly people want to say Symbian^3 sucks, without considering that they are seeing a device that has taken who knows much abuse. Honest, having seen the demo live, in most whoosh/fade/scroll/eyecandy things it's clearly snappier than the N900 (as much as it pains me to say that). Not that you should judge any phone by it's whooshes or icon sets.
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2010-09-20 , 19:08
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i just tried using my fingers with fingernail guitar pics on my capacitive screen device and yes the device acts like the n8 on the video so yes, Ms. Blue nails nailed it
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2010-09-20 , 19:20
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Originally Posted by johnel View Post
Symbian in itself is absolutely fine with low hardware requirements. As a mobile phone OS its perfect. But Nokia is trying to push it further into the smartphone field and they shouldn't be doing that.

If Nokia wants to continue to make Symbian phones that's fine but don't try and sell it as a smartphone and expect users to pay top-end prices for it - it's bad value for money and bad for Nokia's reputation.
That's your opinion. I happen to think the N8 is a really good "smartphone" - whatever that means. I would not consider any phone that does not send mms to be a smartphone.
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