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2007-10-15 , 18:35
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Hmm.. maybe you did something differently, but I just edited a word .doc file, selected "Save" and transferred it over to my PC where Word 2007 opened the edited .doc file fine.
 
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2007-10-15 , 19:32
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Originally Posted by mobiledivide View Post
I find that the best and most foolproof method is using the MicroB browser and google docs. Email the document to your gmail account and then open it up through google docs. You can edit and save in a variety of formats as well as share the document directly. Not as nice as having a dedicated offline word editor but still it does work.
When I try installing MicroB it says it installed, but then I can't seem to find it anywhere in the applications. It was a 7.2 MB download, so I'm pretty sure I got *something*... how do I run the damn thing???

Thanks!

/Neil
 
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2007-10-15 , 19:34
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Originally Posted by Moonshine View Post
Hmm.. maybe you did something differently, but I just edited a word .doc file, selected "Save" and transferred it over to my PC where Word 2007 opened the edited .doc file fine.
Yes, I think I was actually editing a .SAVED file the first time I tried this; evidently those are saved in Abiword format (I looked in the file and it explicitly mentions this).

I just tried again, using a fresh .doc file, edited it on the N800 and emailed it back to myself. Yes, this time it could open in Word, but it had been converted to RTF. You can confirm this by doing "Save as..." in Word and seeing what the current type is.

RTF is better than nothing, of course, but in my experience formatting can be a little flaky when converting between formats. It would be better if the native Word format was preserved.

/Neil
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2007-10-15 , 21:04
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Wait... to install abiword properly, with full word support, you have to use red pill mode!?

That's just wrong. You shouldn't have to jailbreak in order to install a consumer level app on a consumer level device.
 
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2007-10-15 , 21:20
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Originally Posted by neilgunton View Post
When I try installing MicroB it says it installed, but then I can't seem to find it anywhere in the applications. It was a 7.2 MB download, so I'm pretty sure I got *something*... how do I run the damn thing???

Thanks!

/Neil
Open up the browser file menu goto "Set engine" click on microB and then restart the browser. It will look EXACTLY the same as the built in browser but the rendering engine is based on mozilla instead of opera. A quick check is to go the N800 home page and it instead of a blue background with a link to tableteer it should show you an orange background with different text. MicroB runs slower than the Opera browser but will interpret all of the AJAX in google docs.
 
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2007-10-15 , 21:21
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Originally Posted by neilgunton View Post
When I try installing MicroB it says it installed, but then I can't seem to find it anywhere in the applications. It was a 7.2 MB download, so I'm pretty sure I got *something*... how do I run the damn thing???

Thanks!

/Neil

When you installed MicroB it became your "default" browser choice, so chances are you are using it when browsing right now. If you look at the browser menus you'll see one labeled "Set Engine" which will allow you to switch between Opera and MicroB. If you want to switch the engine you just select which one you want to use and restart the browser.

If you want to know which you are using at any time just type in "about:" in as a URL and you'll see the about screen for either.
 
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2007-10-15 , 21:31
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Originally Posted by johnkzin View Post
Wait... to install abiword properly, with full word support, you have to use red pill mode!?

That's just wrong. You shouldn't have to jailbreak in order to install a consumer level app on a consumer level device.
"Red Pill Mode
The Hildon Application Manager has a special hidden mode that makes it more power user friendly and gives you access to features that are not yet considered to be ready for everybody. "

Seems perfectly reasonable to me for installing some libraries needed by a NON-official app some guy compiled out on the net. Is this an iPhone forum ?
 
neilgunton is offline neilgunton
2007-10-15 , 23:16
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Originally Posted by mobiledivide View Post
I find that the best and most foolproof method is using the MicroB browser and google docs. Email the document to your gmail account and then open it up through google docs. You can edit and save in a variety of formats as well as share the document directly. Not as nice as having a dedicated offline word editor but still it does work.
Ok, I now have MicroB as my browser engine, and Google docs is working... sort of. I get a cursor, but no way to move the cursor around. I'm using a Think Outside bluetooth folding keyboard, which has arrow keys but they don't seem to do anything with this app. Anybody know how to get this working???

As usual with Linux, it's one stumbling block after another... but once it's working, sweet. Sigh.

Thanks!

/Neil
 
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2007-10-15 , 23:32
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Originally Posted by neilgunton View Post
Ok, I now have MicroB as my browser engine, and Google docs is working... sort of. I get a cursor, but no way to move the cursor around. I'm using a Think Outside bluetooth folding keyboard, which has arrow keys but they don't seem to do anything with this app. Anybody know how to get this working???
I suppose you could just tap wherever you want the cursor to be, instead of moving it around with the keyboard?


Originally Posted by mobiledivide View Post
I find that the best and most foolproof method is using the MicroB browser and google docs. Email the document to your gmail account and then open it up through google docs. You can edit and save in a variety of formats as well as share the document directly. Not as nice as having a dedicated offline word editor but still it does work.
I was just going to suggest this as well.

It does add the complication of having to install MicroB, but once you've done it the Google Docs site should work fine.
 
neilgunton is offline neilgunton
2007-10-16 , 03:47
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The current winner is Abiword. Ok, so it silently converts Word docs to RTF, but I have tested sending a Word doc to the N800, editing it and sending it back and editing in Word on Mac OS X, and it seems none the worse for wear. Probably there are some sophisticated document styles or fancy structures that might not make the transition, but we don't use too many of those in my current situation... the text is very small, but it is usable - and the cursor keys actually work, unlike Google docs. And Abiword is faster than Google docs. Thanks everybody for your help, much appreciated!

/Neil
 
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